Surecast Enhancements, Please!

[Bhuni]

We can already move whilst casting, it's a nice little skill called swiftcast no thank you.

[Atlaworks]

We can already move whilst casting, it's a nice little skill called swiftcast no thank you.

Makes sense.

What's surecast for then?

[Bhuni]

Makes sense.

What's surecast for then?

Surecast allows you finish casting whatever spell without being interrupted. Turn 5's fireball being one example I don't think it needs to be changed at all it doesn't make or break a fight but I'd rather not have one skill that does more or less the same as another.

[Atlaworks]

Surecast allows you finish casting whatever spell without being interrupted. Turn 5's fireball being one example I don't think it needs to be changed at all it doesn't make or break a fight but I'd rather not have another skill that does more or less the same as another.

But... Swiftcast does that too. So isn't that what swiftcast is for?

That seems redundant. It's like... Swiftcast is just a superior version of Surecast or something. If that were the case, that'd be worse than them doing the same thing because it would mean Swiftcast entirely invalidates Surecast.

[Bhuni]

But... Swiftcast does that too. So isn't that what swiftcast is for?

That seems redundant. It's like... Swiftcast is just a superior version of Surecast or something. If that were the case, that'd be worse than them doing the same thing because it would mean Swiftcast entirely invalidates Surecast.

Swiftcast can be used AFTER to recover your interrupted spell from an attack. Surecast is a prebuff to allow no interupts from the enemy during your next cast whilst rooted, cancelling the cast will remove the buff. On attacks that interrupt spells few they may be Surecast is superior.

[Atlaworks]

Swiftcast can be used AFTER to recover your interrupted spell from an attack. Surecast is a prebuff to allow no interupts from the enemy during your next cast whilst rooted, cancelling the cast will remove the buff. On attacks that interrupt spells few they may be Surecast is superior.

That's... that's not a thing. You can't interrupt a Swiftcasted spell because it makes it instant; there's no cast time to interrupt. Surecast is inferior in every way because it doesn't do anything Swiftcast doesn't do better.

[Bhuni]

That's... that's not a thing. You can't interrupt a Swiftcasted spell because it makes it instant; there's no cast time to interrupt. Surecast is inferior in every way because it doesn't do anything Swiftcast doesn't do better.

I said you can use swiftcast to recover from a previously interupted attack, no one where did I say you could interupt swiftcast.

[Kuurei]

That's... that's not a thing. You can't interrupt a Swiftcasted spell because it makes it instant; there's no cast time to interrupt. Surecast is inferior in every way because it doesn't do anything Swiftcast doesn't do better.

Feel like Bhuni is arguing just to argue.

Honestly, OP has a point. If you can predict an interrupt to prebuff with Surecast, you could just as easily click the spell that is most likely already on your hotbar, not being useless AKA swiftcast.

To make matters worse, BOTH are also cross-classable. There's like no reason for Sure to exist outside pvp.

[VoltaAsura]

We can already move whilst casting, it's a nice little skill called swiftcast no thank you.

I logged in just to like and say that I totally second this. This is how you move and cast at the same time.

Surecast is fine as it is.

[Yuri_Hyuga]

We can already move whilst casting, it's a nice little skill called swiftcast no thank you.

My rebuttal, why not both? What's the harm (beyond the obvious, balance-implications)?

Swiftcast is on a much longer CD, would be less usable than the suggested.

Although I see Surecast's usefulness & merit, I feel it would benefit from this little extra pizzazz.

It would be much more fun & interesting to permit Surecast to do so.

Ultimately, my thinking is, "why not?" It's far more excited to allow for it, why restrict it so just because 'oh, well Swiftcast can do that already'?

Just let it be, dude. One love, mang.