The Other Side of The (Raid) Force

[Aureyo]

I just don't get it, you pay to have access to the game. That is why you are subbed. Thus, you have access to the story in coil with as much chance as everyone else. You aren't being oppressed or denied access to that story in anyway other than not beating the turns. If you are that sore about it then watch youtube, if you want the "in game" experience then beat the turns. Practice your class and form a group with friends and work on the turns like everyone else.

Remember when playing a game and getting better at it and finally beating something you worked hard for gave you a sense of accomplishment? I do.

[Ashkendor]

While in an mmo locking "Story" behind "Raiding Content" is a bad move which is why it's being "Corrected in Heavensward" SE realise doing what they did with Coil was a mistake and they are adjusting the new content so "Everyone" can experience their story. The only issue that stands at the moment is a lot of people new to the game and with real life commitments *I apologise suffering with illness I really do* dont get to see Coil's story unless they PAY a FC a rediculous amount of Gil *60m on my server Ragnarok* for a group willing to go.

They aren't "correcting" it per se, though. It's more accurate to say that they are easing it. People will still need to get together and beat it. It'll be easier, but it'll still require effort. I'm sure that there will still be those people that aren't willing to and will simply sit on the sidelines complaining rather than putting in the effort. As far as people new to the game and people with real life commitments, I don't see why people keep bringing that up. No matter what someone's circumstances are, they'll need to put a certain amount of effort into the game to progress. Plenty of raiders I know have kids and jobs and lives outside of the game. Being a raider doesn't mean you play the game 24/7. Newbies don't have it any harder than we did when first diving into the content, they simply have a different set of problems to deal with.

I'm sorry to hear about your illness, in any case. I hope you're doing better and wish that I could help you with T9, but unfortunately you're on a different server than I am. 60m does seem ridiculous for T9, though I guess it makes sense that prices would vary from server to server; I think my raid static charges 2.1m for T9 when we merc.

I just don't get it, you pay to have access to the game. That is why you are subbed. Thus, you have access to the story in coil with as much chance as everyone else. You aren't being oppressed or denied access to that story in anyway other than not beating the turns. If you are that sore about it then watch youtube, if you want the "in game" experience then beat the turns. Practice your class and form a group with friends and work on the turns like everyone else.

Remember when playing a game and getting better at it and finally beating something you worked hard for gave you a sense of accomplishment? I do.

Exactly. I don't get why some people seem to think that being subbed means they should simply be handed everything on a silver platter. It's difficult content for a reason, and in a story-driven game like FFXIV expecting their high-end content to have no story is like expecting the sun not to rise tomorrow. It's just not gonna happen. In any case, raiders didn't start the game with all the necessary skills and contacts along with foreknowledge of the mechanics to the raids. We had to learn how to play the game. We had to network and find people that we mesh with that are also skilled enough for the content, and we had to learn to work together with them. We had to dive into the content and die. A lot. We had to learn that a wipe isn't a failure as long as you learn something from it. Some raiders are more skilled than others, too. Some write guides. Others follow guides. Either way, you have to go through a lot of the same things to progress.

Honestly, the only difference between a raider and a non-raider is actually putting in the effort to clear.

[Whiteroom]

I just don't get it, you pay to have access to the game. That is why you are subbed. Thus, you have access to the story in coil with as much chance as everyone else. You aren't being oppressed or denied access to that story in anyway other than not beating the turns. If you are that sore about it then watch youtube, if you want the "in game" experience then beat the turns. Practice your class and form a group with friends and work on the turns like everyone else.

Remember when playing a game and getting better at it and finally beating something you worked hard for gave you a sense of accomplishment? I do.

This!
Can we please ha e this put in the op?

The whole argument put forth is the real overwhelming sense of entilement people have. They dont even know what they paid for, but think they deserve everything.