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Thread: RIP Astrologian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    How would this be a departure from healer status quo?
    Because the AST would then be expected to provide both the large Heals (WHM mode) as well as the barriers (SCH mode).
    At the same time.
    All the time.

    Having it without a restriction would mean the AST has to be balanced around its ability to provide both at once.
    It would mean neither aspect of the AST would feel particularly powerful.

    Amusingly, having the swap mechanic unusable in combat actually plays to the lore of the AST anyway, since the AST would simply read the future to determine which stance they need to be in for any given fight :P

    I would not however, be against some form of really long cooldown that lets you switch modes in combat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Source?

    Seriously, guys, information is spread all over the place at the moment. Is it too much to ask that threads link to sources?
    I agree with this. I feel like if Astro not only heals less than the two other healers but now also can't change stances in battle then they are at a strong disadvantage. Because of this, I'm finding the information a little hard to believe and really would like to see a source. :/
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    Man, I effing hate seeing these RIP threads.

    Stop it.

    Seriously.

    EDIT: You gods damned drama queen.
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    The way the healers seem to be designed now are like this.

    SCH=Shield (shield and pet buffing)
    WHM=Regen (Main Gimmick is heavy healing)
    AST=Shield or Regen (Main gimmick are cards)

    Rather than try to define AST as both or one or the other they decided to make it a switch either or and through that push it's focus on the cards for potency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillia View Post
    I agree with this. I feel like if Astro not only heals less than the two other healers but now also can't change stances in battle then they are at a strong disadvantage. Because of this, I'm finding the information a little hard to believe and really would like to see a source. :/
    Imagine if a WHM had Adloq and Succor in addition to Medica/Medica II and Cure II+III.

    Be kind of OP right?
    But ... If the WHM had to choose, per fight, whether to have Succor/Adloq or Cure II/Medica it would not be so bad, right? Becomes a style choice.

    That's the sort of position the AST is going to be in. It will have the opportunity to tailor its healing style per encounter.
    I can well imagine using Barrier mode for fights that have a lot of unfocused AoE but switching it to WHM mode for more bursty bosses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    Imagine if a WHM had Adloq and Succor in addition to Medica/Medica II and Cure II+III.

    Be kind of OP right?
    But ... If the WHM had to choose, per fight, whether to have Succor/Adloq or Cure II/Medica it would not be so bad, right? Becomes a style choice.

    That's the sort of position the AST is going to be in. It will have the opportunity to tailor its healing style per encounter.
    I can well imagine using Barrier mode for fights that have a lot of unfocused AoE but switching it to WHM mode for more bursty bosses.
    If the potency is less then no, it's not. The actual potency is said to be lowered if you read what I said. It's not confirmed as far as me actually seeing it of course but even the live streamer from earlier said it was and it's something that's been going all over the net for a while.

    Edit: It depends really on how low the potency is of course but so far, if it's too low then stance changing being limited down as well is going to be a lot of limits to the job. :/
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    Can we please have a source on this info? I'm trying to find it in that journalist's AMA, but I'm not seeing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillia View Post
    If the potency is less then no, it's not. The actual potency is said to be lowered if you read what I said. It's not confirmed as far as me actually seeing it of course but even the live streamer from earlier said it was and it's something that's been going all over the net for a while.

    Edit: It depends really on how low the potency is of course but so far, if it's too low then stance changing being limited down as well is going to be a lot of limits to the job. :/
    Except its not really a good idea for a healer to basically have 10 different low potency heals.
    You'd be spending your whole combat time just slamming spell after spell after spell trying to keep up.

    Having it a pre fight decision lets each mode be powerful and unique in its own right without the need to worry about how powerful it'd be to have access to Cure II and Adloq at the same time.
    Hell, they may even add a third mode thats all about Regen effects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonflie View Post
    Can we please have a source on this info? I'm trying to find it in that journalist's AMA, but I'm not seeing it.
    He stated it in his twitch stream, idk the exact time as I watched it live
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    info that slycer translated from a game watch article!


    http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/125...vent-5-18-5-21)
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