o.O Overkill on the crafting Dumb down?

[Amineri]

What i find funny is, how so many people here are so against this changes but i still find most lower ranked equips to be short on stock or none at all because mostly on how cumbersome it is to make them and probably not worth the effort just for the small profit, here is a good idea for everyone that loves our complex crafting system.. don't just talk the talk, walk the walk.

Start crafting and flows our markets with low ranked gears because everytime a new player comes in they always complains about how hard is it to find a piece of gear at their rank or how overpriced it is. Realize, how this is not helping with the game after all in the long term?

Certainly, the existing system has problems. No one is disputing that. And the recipe system certainly needed some revisions.

However, a large part of why it is difficult to find lower rank gear has little to do with the recipe system, and everything to do with the other systems. The very small number of bazaar slots creates a huge opportunity cost for people that wish to sell low rank items. Further, the speed of ranking up at low ranks leads to very low demand for low rank items, simply because many people do not stay at low ranks for long. Even further, the tight inventory system (considering multiple classes worth of gear, gathered materials, and event gear "clutter") leads to further lower demand for lower rank gear.

Finally, the lack of buy orders (i.e. broken "seek item" feature) hampers everything. I would gladly, happily create items to fulfill buy orders. Even low rank items. I actually enjoy making items, just for the sake of making items, and knowing that someone will use them.

In the end, these changes won't make a bunch of low-rank items appear on the markets. The same forces that keep them from being sold will still exist.

These changes will, I believe, instead drive away those people that enjoy crafting for itself. You will be left with only the people that (a) primarily fight, and have no interest in making items for other people (b) those that wish to make a lot of gil crafting. And what will the result of that be?

[Etienn]

Certainly, the existing system has problems. No one is disputing that. And the recipe system certainly needed some revisions.

However, a large part of why it is difficult to find lower rank gear has little to do with the recipe system, and everything to do with the other systems. The very small number of bazaar slots creates a huge opportunity cost for people that wish to sell low rank items. Further, the speed of ranking up at low ranks leads to very low demand for low rank items, simply because many people do not stay at low ranks for long. Even further, the tight inventory system (considering multiple classes worth of gear, gathered materials, and event gear "clutter") leads to further lower demand for lower rank gear.

Finally, the lack of buy orders (i.e. broken "seek item" feature) hampers everything. I would gladly, happily create items to fulfill buy orders. Even low rank items. I actually enjoy making items, just for the sake of making items, and knowing that someone will use them.

In the end, these changes won't make a bunch of low-rank items appear on the markets. The same forces that keep them from being sold will still exist.

These changes will, I believe, instead drive away those people that enjoy crafting for itself. You will be left with only the people that (a) primarily fight, and have no interest in making items for other people (b) those that wish to make a lot of gil crafting. And what will the result of that be?

Not that these are bad points, but the main problem is that you can equip a rank 48 body/crafting piece as a rank 1 craft, why buy low rank gear when I can use my 40+ robe and doublet?