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    Quote Originally Posted by Kukajoo View Post
    hm its not as bad as you think
    just pick the stance thats needed to fill whats missing
    got a sch? pure healer stance
    got a whm? barrier stance
    Less fun than dynamically altering battle posture.

    Really bummed about this design-choice, honestly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuri_Hyuga View Post
    Less fun than dynamically altering battle posture.

    Really bummed about this design-choice, honestly.
    honestly the fact astralogian can do both is already really strong borderline OP
    i agree with squares decision to disallow stance change mid combat it feels like it would really balance it out.
    and if they could switch stances mid combat could you imagine the pressure the party would place on them? expecting them to be some wonderful do all fix all?
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    Last edited by Kukajoo; 05-27-2015 at 01:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kukajoo View Post
    Honestly the fact astralogian can do both is already really strong borderline OP...
    Nah, plenty of ways to balance & design for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kukajoo View Post
    could you imagine the pressure the party would place on them? expecting them to be some wonderful do all fix all?
    How would this be a departure from healer status quo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    How would this be a departure from healer status quo?
    Because the AST would then be expected to provide both the large Heals (WHM mode) as well as the barriers (SCH mode).
    At the same time.
    All the time.

    Having it without a restriction would mean the AST has to be balanced around its ability to provide both at once.
    It would mean neither aspect of the AST would feel particularly powerful.

    Amusingly, having the swap mechanic unusable in combat actually plays to the lore of the AST anyway, since the AST would simply read the future to determine which stance they need to be in for any given fight :P

    I would not however, be against some form of really long cooldown that lets you switch modes in combat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kukajoo View Post
    i agree with squares decision to disallow stance change mid combat it feels like it would really balance it out.
    Pretty much. It'd be overpowered if they could just switch on a whim unless the skills were watered down.

    and if they could switch stances mid combat could you imagine the pressure the party would place on them? expecting them to be some wonderful do all fix all?
    Isn't this pretty much what healer life is anyway? :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    How would this be a departure from healer status quo?
    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    Isn't this pretty much what healer life is anyway? :3
    because astralogian is a new healing class with alot of intricacies that we don't understand yet
    at least most understand the abilities and limitations of what a whm and sch can and cant do right now.
    but astralogian can cover both of what each can do to an extent. im not saying healers as of now receive no pressure at all
    but we just dont understand astralogian and i feel there are going to be many overexpecting what its going to be able to do
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuri_Hyuga View Post
    Less fun than dynamically altering battle posture.

    Really bummed about this design-choice, honestly.
    Exactly, if I wanted to WHM or SCH i'd choose either or but to be able to swap between them on one job would've been fun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barimu View Post
    Exactly, if I wanted to WHM or SCH i'd choose either or but to be able to swap between them on one job would've been fun
    Instead you get to be SCH-esque or WHM-esque for any given battle. SCHs and WHMs don't have that option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuri_Hyuga View Post
    Less fun than dynamically altering battle posture.

    Really bummed about this design-choice, honestly.
    I'm actually happy with it. Something different as you need to choose which stance will be more valuable for the fight at hand. Also, I think what Kukajoo said is spot on, though I'm sure there will be exceptions depending on the fight.
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