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  1. #131
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    Nestama's Avatar
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    Problem is, that's not how things work. With a subscription based MMO you don't appeal to the minority of the players. If Millions of japanese want to play cute races, SE won't stop making them for the sake of a few thousand players.
    So then why bother making a new race at all? If X race is the most popular in the game, then there's absolutely no need to make a new race at all. Just stick to what you already have and don't bother.
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  2. #132
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    Axel Darkhero
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasenai View Post
    How about not pulling new races out of hat and use what's already in the game/lore?

    Coming up with a brand new race that somehow no one knew existed every other patch or expansion is going to look really stupid, really quickly.
    Well obviously, the majority of the robot race have been lying dormant in the safety of their moon base for a thousand years; the few active units on Eorzean soil remain in constant stealth mode. Its only natural that nobody's heard of them!
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  3. #133
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    V'kahji Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxelDH View Post
    Well obviously, the majority of the robot race have been lying dormant in the safety of their moon base for a thousand years; the few active units on Eorzean soil remain in constant stealth mode. Its only natural that nobody's heard of them!
    SE, are you listening? Hire this man.
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  4. #134
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    Mercutio Montealvo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samcaesar View Post
    And the Elin are more than the Castanic, high elf, or human, should SE make a cute, wide hipped, waifish, larger Lalafell with animal ears to follow up?
    I'm not sure that's what he was saying. More options are better in my opinion, but we already have the "cute" (I find them a tired cliche myself) character aspect locked down.

    Tera's Elin are what happens when you let freaks get what they want. End of story.
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  5. #135
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    Geovana Fletcher
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riastrad View Post
    I'm not sure that's what he was saying. More options are better in my opinion, but we already have the "cute" (I find them a tired cliche myself) character aspect locked down.

    Tera's Elin are what happens when you let freaks get what they want. End of story.
    Who are you to call others freaks? If you want to be rude about that then by extension you need to be rude about every other game that has small races. FF XI and XIV being two of them. Next time think before being rude.
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  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantasy9 View Post
    Who are you to call others freaks? If you want to be rude about that then by extension you need to be rude about every other game that has small races. FF XI and XIV being two of them. Next time think before being rude.
    Oh man, Tera's chat log was so terribly bad about Elin's being an player option that I will forever associate them with the worst of the mmo community. So no, I won't take it back. Lala's and Taru chat on the other hand is confined to the "master race" and "punting". Not even close to what was/is said about Elin's. Even though they resemble children. Defend it all you want, I don't like it.

    By the by, forums are not meant to be places to change someone else mind set. So I won't even try.
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    Last edited by Riastrad; 05-27-2015 at 03:29 AM.

  7. #137
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    Kallera's Avatar
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Um, maybe they can work with the races they have now? We have enough anthropomorphic races as it is.
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  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    Um, maybe they can work with the races they have now? We have enough anthropomorphic races as it is.
    Personally until they have a race that looks more beastly (or "alien") like, then I'll still be wanting a new race. UNLESS, they give interesting options to the races presented to make them look less human. I know I'm harping, but I was really interested in the picture of the race I believe that Au'ra (Don't even care about the race to learn their name) could have looked like.

    I have my doubts, so I guess I'm stuck playing Roe for the game's lifespan.

    I decided to go have a look at WoW's distribution of races. If you want a quick look just copy the link
    http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census...ervertypeid=-1

    I decided to group small races, alien-like (undead, orcs, trolls, draenei) and furry races into their own groups. WoW also doesn't have JP players, as well as, there are racials in the mix. However, it is a lot better then looking at Roe's population to say, "Well people don't like Roe much!" Especially since Roe doesn't have anything really unique besides size. Since I'm only looking at one source I can't really use this to make a statement; however, I'm putting this out there to allow you guys to keep an open mind.

    Humans: 19%
    Elves: 27%
    Alien (Orcs, Trolls, Undead, Draenei): 27%
    Short: 12%
    Furries: 17%

    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    I'm only saying we have enough anthropomorphic characters because, as a person that voted for more beastial races, the au ra didn't go far enough.
    Haha, I definitely agree with that. My curiosity is why they don't make one clan more human orientated well the other takes on more aspects of the dragon (demon?) side. Personally, I'd be happy with just that. Otherwise, I don't see why they can't add a beastly race. If you look at the Ronso they have extremely small muzzles allowing them to wear basically the same helmets, not including the fact that they can just give them normal feet.

    Even small things can make a race stand out. Pretty much the best example are Orcs. Though, I'm probably done with this thread. I do understand the other sides opinion; however, I guess it is a personal wish to play this game as something out of the norm. After all, I am a human irl so playing things that are basically humans with accessories doesn't cut it for me. Otherwise, it was interesting "conversation" (As it is a forum) to partake in.
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    Last edited by Wolfyboy; 05-27-2015 at 01:14 AM.

  9. #139
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    I will gladly admit I am no programmer, artist, or animator. Looking at the issue from a technical view it seems like i t would be more than a little work to implement a race that breaks the mold to drastically. On the subject of filling niche/ nuanced player options, I can not help but see it as... unfair to claim what another person wants has no reason for creation, but what their beautifully unique little monster/golem/werewolf/quadruped/mermaid/lemia/manticore/robot/construct/lizard is much more viable, interesting and over all better.

    In no way, shape, or form am i saying it should not be done. Nor am i saying bestial races have no place in FFXIV. I have only cited that due to realistic processing power of the Ps3 perhaps this would not be possible any time soon. Until then what harm is there for someone to request a race that they better suits their "character"? Far to many are to quick to simply say "no, we have enough of x we don't need any more." as if they are the deciding factor...

    Unbidden, just for laughs this piece of art was created to celebrate the year of the ram.


    I present this as an example of what the design teams (possible) thought process are when creating new races/ characters. I am not saying they can't/ wont make something that more accurately portrays a vicious, feral, beast like race. Only pointing out that by and far it seems to not be a focus they adhere to.
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    Last edited by Alacran; 05-27-2015 at 12:53 AM.

  10. #140
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    Etoile Kallera
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    I'm only saying we have enough anthropomorphic characters because, as a person that voted for more beastial races, the au ra didn't go far enough.
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