Why punish players who just want to play DoL DoH?

[Foomerang]

I dont care about the combat in this game. I dont care about the storyline. I just want to experience the new DoL DoH content, race my chocobos, tend my garden and be part of the community. I dont think thats too much to ask in an mmorpg. Im happy with the game that way and gladly pay my sub for that content available to me. Locking the expansion behind 100+ required combat centric quests after already reaching 50 with a combat class is disheartening.

I wish they would've said from the beginning at 2.1 that these quests were required to unlock the expansion.

[Reokudo]

Considering the focus of the game is to you know, go out there and adventure and slay things... Yeah. Crafting and gathering are side attractions to the ride.

[Duelle]

Considering the focus of the game is to you know, go out there and adventure and slay things... Yeah. Crafting and gathering are side attractions to the ride.

Once upon a time, DoL and DoH could progress the story. It involved them playing Parley with the target a DoW/DoM class would have to kill. I guess seeing a lv50 carpenter play Parley against Gaius van Baelsar would be its own brand of amusement...

[Cherie]

? You are unhappy because they put combat quests in the game.

I'm trying to imagine what more gathering/crafting quests would actually look like. As someone who also has done every gathering/crafting quest line to 50... I think they did a pretty good job. I'm not really sure what else there was to add.

The benefit of a combat class is it involves going to far off lands, meeting strange new people and then killing them.

The whole gathering/crafting quest line involves ultimately selling your goods. The marketboard is the end boss... and believe me, it's a tough one...

Being as it's your idea to make more crafting/gathering quests... do you actually have ideas for some? Cause I have none... lol It's easier to say something is wrong than to actually suggest how to "fix" it.

[Yuri_Hyuga]

This' honestly... a really great point.

Up until now, you could experience all this game had to offer for DoH/DoL without ever having to complete MSQ or enter combat-content.

It's pretty sad that players who wish to play like this will be locked out form Ishgard due to MSQ gating.

[Felis]

This' honestly... a really great point.
Up until now, you could experience all this game had to offer for DoH/DoL without ever having to complete MSQ or enter combat-content.

You need a combat class to unlock not only the battle leves, but also the DoL and DoH leves.
You have to join a GC with a combat class to have access to the Supply & Delievery service of the GC as a extra exp source for DoH and DoL
You have to clear Stone Vigil to unlock the Ixal daily quests as a extra exp source for DoH

To be fair. Those that made their crafters/gathers in 1.0 were good to go. Back then you could craft/gather you way to 50. No questies, nothing. Sure it was more fun (imo) to do the combat classes but I know some that were thrilled with the idea that they could at lvl 1, craft/gather.

That changed already with the instruction of the Grand Companies during 1.x
Needed a battle class at level 20 to join a GC and no Chocobo if you don't join a GC.
And DoH without a Chocobo was less fun than one with Chocobo (all the travels from Ul'dah to Blue Fog and back for the leves)

[Duuude007]

Up until now, you could experience all this game had to offer for DoH/DoL without ever having to complete MSQ or enter combat-content..

Ehcatl Sealants. <drops mic>

[Kikosho]

Ehcatl Sealants. <drops mic>

Which could be purchased from the Market Board.

[Felis]

Which could be purchased from the Market Board.

The same with the coming new mats gathered in the 3.0 zones.

[DarkStar]

Everyone here has already noted that this game isn't targeted towards people who want to exclusively do only non-combat stuff, so I'm not gonna touch on that. Instead, I'll share a funny idea I had for if the game did enable people to Craft/Gather their way through the MSQ: rather than fighting Gaius in a Victor-Take-All battle between him and his Ultima Weapon versus you and seven total strangers (or any combination of total strangers and friends), you battle him in a three-stage COOKING COMPETITION!

The first stage is him with his lieutenants, then the second phase has Ultima Weapon join in, using the powers of its captured Primals to vastly speed up the cooking for the other side, then you'd use the Blessing of Light to strip the Primals and make the competiton more even, and then it all ends with Ultima Weapon unlocking its full power and using lasers and magitek bits and stuff to replace the defeated chefs.

Then Lahabrea comes in, makes a short speech, and gets smacked in the face with your Aether-infused skillet.