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  1. #71
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    Sylvia Valadis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reokudo View Post
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    SE needs to be wary of mob mentality if they choose to walk down that path, least we end up with a game only the largest minority enjoys because of pandering and alienation which isn't a way to run a sustainable business model. Ultimately, they should listen to the minorities whenever they do have complaints (Such as races being to same-y and cute), they're consumers just like the others are. Right now all SE is doing with the Au Ra is caving in to support that majority and further alienating minority consumer bases, what they ought to do in the future (And what I wish they would have done with the Au Ra) is do something akin to the Hyurs, making one clan incredibly different appearance-wise than the other, it'd be more work, but it would show that SE isn't just doing things to appeal to the majority and actually show concern to their entire player base. But that didn't happen, and now it looks like our next race might be another set of waifish girls and who knows on the guys, which only continues to pander to one group and alienate another.

    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    if you really did expect something not human-like, you are past naive (without be offending) look at the past final fantasy, the number of race not human-like are little...
    And? What happened to this being a game with Final Fantasy references but ultimately being something of its own merit? FFXIV has a good bit of non-human-like races with the beastman, and people have been asking for stuff akin to the Bangaa as well, it's not like they can't, its more that they won't for whatever reasons.
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  2. #72
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    No more races until they stop ignoring the ones we have. Tails already are ignored and just clip through everything, fix that before adding more races with more unique parts to ignore.
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  3. #73
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    you can't please everyone, you know? and nothing say that we will get another race with the next expansion, you know it? maybe the Au Ra will be the only race added... who know the futur.

    but they are a company that look at the profit/loose ratio. do create a content that will only appeal to a small minority will simply be a loose than a win. them goal is to appeal to more people.... not a minority. if you refuse to admit it, it's sad, because it what happend in every game soo far and will probably continue later.

    no alot want to play an uncool race or something totally monstruous.... that a reality, because you will spend most of your time at look at your character it's your avatar and a looooot of person want to have an avatar matching them taste and looking cool.

    ps: on the subject i can see the kitsune male look more like a beast more than human, standing on him two feet

    Quote Originally Posted by Samcaesar View Post
    And? What happened to this being a game with Final Fantasy references but ultimately being something of its own merit? FFXIV has a good bit of non-human-like races with the beastman, and people have been asking for stuff akin to the Bangaa as well, it's not like they can't, its more that they won't for whatever reasons.
    already answered this, make a race like the vangaa will recquire to redo every freaking armor that did come out soo far... do you imagine the work that it is? if this race don't appeal to a large public? it will never happend. you simply ignore the technical and bussiness issue from it.
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    Last edited by silentwindfr; 05-25-2015 at 05:16 PM.

  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugiawara View Post
    What we need is a race that's not actually lookin' like a human in some sort.
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    I want more variety. :c
    I'd say no to Kitsune! Even though I like them.
    My first thoughts of "cat race" fully fur body, with big cat features came to mind, humanoid figure but in essence a beast, instead we got adolescents humans scaled to adult height with furry ears and tail slapped on them, the anime cat people. If your house cat suddenly turned into a humanoid this is what they would look like.

    This is what i had in mind for a "cat race" https://youtu.be/ZniVGJYITs0?t=12s timeskip https://youtu.be/ZniVGJYITs0?t=1m8s timeskip https://youtu.be/ZniVGJYITs0?t=2m2s They look mean, they look like they can bring the hurt to the fight, at the same time totally /pet'able. If those panthers, tigers and lions in the wild turned into humanoids this is what they would look like.

    I've been suggesting a fox race since the beginning, they would be more suited to having more human. (Star)foxes would be nice too.
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    Last edited by KaedrianLiang; 05-25-2015 at 05:47 PM.

  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    There is already an MMORPG with this sort of cutesy attire for players that want it. I keep forgetting the name, but it looks like one of those Korean MMOs. Why not start a fox girl in that instead of trying to cram it into FFXIV?
    Blade & Soul ?
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  6. #76
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    Considering the love the Au Ra have been receiving and the fact that Fantasia makes good money, I doubt new races won't be added.

    If you continue to appeal to a strict majority, then you end up skimming more and more fat til you've got a sliver of the original majority left, it's why companies attempt to broaden their audiences and why those who don't slowly fade away as their target audience loses interest. If you continue to accept the status quo because it's just what everyone else does, then you're breeding an environment for mob rule and a slowly dwindling consumer base.

    I understand that remaking every armor in the game would be a pain, but that's SE's job. If they wanted the easy route, then you'd have one race option one sex, Hyur dude, and no one wants that, right? I understand the want for a good enough audience for it, but all SE can do is assume and predict, for all we know a more Bangaa like race would take up 40% of the player base suddenly.
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  7. #77
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    no alot want to play an uncool race or something totally monstruous.... that a reality, because you will spend most of your time at look at your character it's your avatar and a looooot of person want to have an avatar matching them taste and looking cool.
    People play as a race for different reasons. I chose Roegadyn because they're the closest I can get to making a bear.
    The only profit SE are getting out of Heavensward is from people buying the expansion and continuing to renew their sub. People are always buying Fantasias or haven't even used their Fantasia's at all (I have a Legacy friend who still has two Fantasia potions. So SE are technically getting no "Au Ra" money out of him). I've used around 5 Fantasia's, all to change my Roegadyn to look like a different Roegadyn. I'd change to a beast like race in a heart beat if one were available.

    There are also potential consumers interested in FFXIV, but are turned off by the lack of choices with the current races. Some have said the options are boring and who can blame them? All we have are: Tall and muscular human. (Tall male elf with horns/no ears). Elf. Regular human. Human with cat accessories. (Short female human with horns/no ears). Gnome.
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  8. #78
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    I could support this only if they had actual fox faces and fur. Otherwise really not excited about more human reskins with clipon horns/ears/tails/scales.

    Females (except Lalafell) especially blend together for me as it is. I don't even notice if they're tall or have ears and a tail (nor do I, frankly, care). It's all the same basic girl model to me.
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  9. #79
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    ...so this is where the blue fox hide come from
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  10. #80
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    Lack of races is not something we have, therefore i see no reason for new ones to be added. However i think the character creation could be improved.. a LOT.
    If we actually had sliders for eyes, nose and such we'd already get a lot more unique looking characters.
    It's a shame that the character creation is extremely limited and only gives you a few default options face wise. It just results in everyone looking similar in a way.
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