A Race Suggestion: Kitsune

[silentwindfr]

if you really did expect something not human-like, you are past naive (without be offending) look at the past final fantasy, the number of race not human-like are little...

[Fawkes]

No more races until they stop ignoring the ones we have. Tails already are ignored and just clip through everything, fix that before adding more races with more unique parts to ignore.

[silentwindfr]

you can't please everyone, you know? and nothing say that we will get another race with the next expansion, you know it? maybe the Au Ra will be the only race added... who know the futur.

but they are a company that look at the profit/loose ratio. do create a content that will only appeal to a small minority will simply be a loose than a win. them goal is to appeal to more people.... not a minority. if you refuse to admit it, it's sad, because it what happend in every game soo far and will probably continue later.

no alot want to play an uncool race or something totally monstruous.... that a reality, because you will spend most of your time at look at your character it's your avatar and a looooot of person want to have an avatar matching them taste and looking cool.

ps: on the subject i can see the kitsune male look more like a beast more than human, standing on him two feet

And? What happened to this being a game with Final Fantasy references but ultimately being something of its own merit? FFXIV has a good bit of non-human-like races with the beastman, and people have been asking for stuff akin to the Bangaa as well, it's not like they can't, its more that they won't for whatever reasons.

already answered this, make a race like the vangaa will recquire to redo every freaking armor that did come out soo far... do you imagine the work that it is? if this race don't appeal to a large public? it will never happend. you simply ignore the technical and bussiness issue from it.

[Nestama]

no alot want to play an uncool race or something totally monstruous.... that a reality, because you will spend most of your time at look at your character it's your avatar and a looooot of person want to have an avatar matching them taste and looking cool.

People play as a race for different reasons. I chose Roegadyn because they're the closest I can get to making a bear.
The only profit SE are getting out of Heavensward is from people buying the expansion and continuing to renew their sub. People are always buying Fantasias or haven't even used their Fantasia's at all (I have a Legacy friend who still has two Fantasia potions. So SE are technically getting no "Au Ra" money out of him). I've used around 5 Fantasia's, all to change my Roegadyn to look like a different Roegadyn. I'd change to a beast like race in a heart beat if one were available.

There are also potential consumers interested in FFXIV, but are turned off by the lack of choices with the current races. Some have said the options are boring and who can blame them? All we have are: Tall and muscular human. (Tall male elf with horns/no ears). Elf. Regular human. Human with cat accessories. (Short female human with horns/no ears). Gnome.

[kyuven]

already answered this, make a race like the vangaa will recquire to redo every freaking armor that did come out soo far... do you imagine the work that it is? if this race don't appeal to a large public? it will never happend. you simply ignore the technical and bussiness issue from it.

This is why we'll never see races that deviate from being at least somewhat based on the 5-6 we already have.
Practicality: Having to redo every single piece of armor and jewelry as well as every single weapon to work with this new race.
Lore: "Beastlike" races are discriminated against in all of the cities to the point of it being a major obstacle all the beast tribe quests have to surmount just to not be killed on sight by everyone. The quest "Hostages to Fortune" is pretty much all the evidence you need as to why beastlike races would never fit in. And that's before getting into the Ul'Dah situation.
Popularity/Marketing: Let's speak plainly here: The majority of people do not want to play something they perceive as ugly. They want "Cool," "Handsome," "Pretty," and/or "Cute." Given the enormous undertaking that is creating a new race, it has to carry at least 2 of these aspects with it while still being something the players can at least relate with.
There are many games that actually encountered this problem with races they have. For example, TERA online has a disproportionate number of players playing Castanic, Humans, Elin, and elves when compared to the other races, to the point many people often forget the Aman and Baraka races even exist.
In EQ1 and 2, it was the trolls and ogres that had this issue. There are definitely players that choose to play them, but the vast majority of players play literally every other race. Hell, the 3rd least played race, gnomes, still had more people choosing it than ogres and trolls combined. It's also generally understood that Ratonga (rat people), Kerra (cat people), and Sarnak (bipedal lizard-dragon people) are fairly underplayed.

When you're designing a race for a game, especially for an expansion that people will be paying cash money for, you want to make sure everything is as attractive as possible.
For NA gamers, maybe the six foot tall gecko is worth the price, but if it doesn't match the aesthetic of the game, it's not going to happen.

Let's do a little experiment. I'm going to put out a group of pictures from different games, but try to keep an odd one out to prove my point. Pretend these are concept art. Which one does not fit the rest aesthetically?








This is the real reason we'll never see anything "unique." Everything must fit the game's set aesthetic, and the game's set aesthetic does not include the players running around as actual dragons. There's already a game for that (and it kinda sucks. It's called Istaria if you're curious.)

[Cakekizy]

This is the real reason we'll never see anything "unique." Everything must fit the game's set aesthetic, and the game's set aesthetic does not include the players running around as actual dragons. There's already a game for that (and it kinda sucks. It's called Istaria if you're curious.)

I remember playing that back when it was still called Horizons.

[Samcaesar]

Considering the love the Au Ra have been receiving and the fact that Fantasia makes good money, I doubt new races won't be added.

If you continue to appeal to a strict majority, then you end up skimming more and more fat til you've got a sliver of the original majority left, it's why companies attempt to broaden their audiences and why those who don't slowly fade away as their target audience loses interest. If you continue to accept the status quo because it's just what everyone else does, then you're breeding an environment for mob rule and a slowly dwindling consumer base.

I understand that remaking every armor in the game would be a pain, but that's SE's job. If they wanted the easy route, then you'd have one race option one sex, Hyur dude, and no one wants that, right? I understand the want for a good enough audience for it, but all SE can do is assume and predict, for all we know a more Bangaa like race would take up 40% of the player base suddenly.

[Nuinn]

I could support this only if they had actual fox faces and fur. Otherwise really not excited about more human reskins with clipon horns/ears/tails/scales.

Females (except Lalafell) especially blend together for me as it is. I don't even notice if they're tall or have ears and a tail (nor do I, frankly, care). It's all the same basic girl model to me.

[Shneibel]

...so this is where the blue fox hide come from

[Sayori]

Lack of races is not something we have, therefore i see no reason for new ones to be added. However i think the character creation could be improved.. a LOT.
If we actually had sliders for eyes, nose and such we'd already get a lot more unique looking characters.
It's a shame that the character creation is extremely limited and only gives you a few default options face wise. It just results in everyone looking similar in a way.