A Race Suggestion: Kitsune

[Illya]

A fox girl is fine too.
But really if there's one thing Tera taught me, it's that squirrel girl is amazing.

[AskaRay]

If they introduced fox men I'd switch immediately, no regrets.

[Nestama]

If SE continue to make races based on what's popular, they'll always please the majority of people. Why on earth would they make something that isn't popular? "Oh, let's make something ugly barely anyone will like!" really doesn't sound like a great idea for a business.

Because making something the majority like is basically telling those who aren't a fan of "99% human 1% miscellaneous" to go elsewhere. Even if it's just a small %, at least there will be playing the new race.
Constantly getting cute girls and cool boys will make certain most Western players and some (or even most if they're sick of it) Eastern players choose not to buy the game (not everyone is a fan of anime).

Uniqueness/Variety > Popularity (staleness)

Because they'll all look boring and samey. Look at the 2 other miqote avatars above you, I had to look twice to make sure it wasn't the same person posting. That's not a good thing.

Exactly.


If they were they wearing Tanking or AST gear, the only way to tell these two apart would be to find the tail.

[Samcaesar]

Snip

-I don't disagree with you! I was stating SE's reasons on the similarity between girl Au Ra and the Miqo'te/Midlander hyur. SE seems to be going less for the "I don't have a race I like yet" and more of the "I like using fantasia and changing often" sorta crowds, hence the appearance of Au Ra looking so similar. Honestly I'd love something more unique looking, it doesn't necessarily need to be full on beastman sorta thing, but I want like at least 90% human 10% beast, or at least something not so waifish with the girls >_>
-Reasonable honestly, it's be more work for SE but that's their job. The only issue is people might not play the race due to basically incomplete outfits, no fancy dress shoes, this helmet looks even more dumb than usual, et cetera. It's not a major deal, but it's a reason why SE might not want to.
-It is SE's fault, however they should shy away from Retconning and forcing players to only do certain things, like, what if I want to play this new race, but I wanted to start as THM? They're already dealing with this problem with concerns of both the Au Ra, Duskwight, and Moon Keepers, their response is basically keeping things as generic as possible to prevent players from shying away from those races.

Honestly, SE needs to find a proper balance between beast and human, either allowing for more options when making the character or finding that balance within the base design. As long as it looks unique without being absolutely horrid looking, I wouldn't complain, the Au Ra, with particular focus on the girls, don't fit that though.

[Velthice]

Because making something the majority like is basically telling those who aren't a fan of "99% human 1% miscellaneous" to go elsewhere. Even if it's just a small %, at least there will be playing the new race.

(not everyone is a fan of anime)..

I couldn't agree more, as far as race selection goes, this game has nothing to offer. Of course the "pretty" race is going to be the most popular, just look at bloodelves from WoW, that doesn't mean every single race in the game has to be pretty. There are a lot of players ready willing and stuck waiting to play something more interesting than dainty anime princess/tough anime boy. How about instead of pandering to the audience you already have, you try something different to expand and broaden the audience to those that enjoy playing the unusual?

[silentwindfr]

it's more about time and effort that will be needed for create something less humanlike... outside the fact that add a race that will only be played by something like 1% (it will never happend don't be naive) the fact that make something too much different will ask them to rework the skin for each set of armor that did come out soo far. we are not talking of simple texture like it was for WoW or game like this, but armor with tons of detail and polygon.

they will look nice on humanlike race, but if you create a race too far, it's possible they need to simply recreate a new model from scratch for match the race. more time pass, more it will be difficult for them to add this sort of race without encounter a huge trouble of time/money/energy involved into the process.

we can ask them to be creative, but sadly, let's be honest, they are a company that work for profit... do something that will cost them money and don't earn them profit will not happend. a new race must appeal to a large group of person, not simply 1%.

why did wow did succeed to do it? let's look the race added will you:
- blood elf and draenei, one is an elegant elf and the other is a race of demon like people
- gobelin and worgen, gobelin are small and was demanded by a lot of player and the worgen is a werewolf... tons of player want to play a werewolf.
- panderean.... well only one word to say panda!

but more important the process to adapt armor was easy since most armor are texture with little model change involved.
each race addes was appealing to a mass of player... the trouble here, is if you want a race not too much human, they need to appeal to a mass of player... or it will not happend.


for comeback to the subject, kitsune race (or look a like) can happend with doma country, it will not surprise me actually, but i feel the next extension (themed around the sea) will maybe see a race of amphibian or waterbreathing race, but don't hope for something too far from human.

[Nestama]

Which is why I said this.

If we're just going to have 96% human and 4% animal, there's no point in making a new race.

Why make a new race at all if it's just going to be something we already have, but with maybe one different thing (that will be hidden under clothing)?

Semi-related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaOgZwk9rN8

[Reokudo]

To which I shall say: They chose to stick to what appeals to the majority and what would make them money. Why would they waste resources/time on something only a small minority may enjoy? If it isn't cute or sexy it won't sell much. It isn't new or overly unique, but it will still net them a lot from fantasia sales. They know how many people play femqote or fem hyur midlanders in comparison to elezen, roe and highlanders. So of course they're gonna go for what will sell. Sure, they can try to be unique and make something beast like, but I doubt they will.

[Nestama]

I'd honestly be disappointed with Yoshi-P if that were to always be the case with new races :/
His team finally gets to make a race for XIV, and instead of something unique (which started off unique in concept arts), it becomes an Elezen hybrid (males) and a Midlander hybrid (females).

[silentwindfr]

if you really did expect something not human-like, you are past naive (without be offending) look at the past final fantasy, the number of race not human-like are little...