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    Evangela's Avatar
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Vote Abandon needs to be adjusted

    people who vote "no" to abandon duty should be allowed to stay, just let the yes voters leave and let the others reform the party if they want.

    it's so annoying in some long dungeon/raid like CT/ST/WoD when ppl abandon it just because they can't beat the last boss. they want to leave without getting punished but the people who voted no have to redo the whole raid from the beginning. it sucks.
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    Gunspec Daggerforge
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    While I would agree with you 90% of the time, I've know situations where a group really SHOULD quit, but one drunk guy really wants to waste everyone's time. I've entered dungeons in progress where none of the bosses were dead, there were only a few minutes remaining (but not so few that replacements were halted) the only guy there was clearly messing around. Three people arrive in dungeon, and that fourth guy just can't keep his act together.

    It REALLY sucks after waiting 40 minutes for a dps queue, just to walk into one of those situations. I queue in progress because I want to help, but sometimes there just isn't any way to help but to pull the plug.
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    Cirra Maru
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    It takes a long time to look for a tank or a healer if they have left the party, so even if you were allowed to stay you might end up with bugger all time to complete the duty.

    It is annoying sometimes, but waiting in duty for a role can take forever and it also requires people to search for "in progress" too. Not a lot of people search in progress, you can't search for in progress when you are in a party so that is why I personally don't have it checked.
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    Cutie Mcsnuggles
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    I'm not sure that adjustment is a good idea. It would be annoying to have to wait for half or more of your party to be refilled and I feel for the unlucky people in DF that end up in your instance only to wait around for 20 min before vote abandoning again because the party wont fill.
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    Blackmage Vivi
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    soo just give everyone a free way out with no penalty? yeaaa that will fix the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    It takes a long time to look for a tank or a healer if they have left the party, so even if you were allowed to stay you might end up with bugger all time to complete the duty.

    It is annoying sometimes, but waiting in duty for a role can take forever and it also requires people to search for "in progress" too. Not a lot of people search in progress, you can't search for in progress when you are in a party so that is why I personally don't have it checked.
    You know what I DON'T understand, is why we still can't change roles in dungeon. If we are waiting for a tank, and I have ilevel 130 warrior gear in my bags, then why do I have to stand there for 15 minutes with a bow in my hands like an idiot?
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    Enju Abbagliato
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    people who vote "no" to abandon duty should be allowed to stay, just let the yes voters leave and let the others reform the party if they want.

    it's so annoying in some long dungeon/raid like CT/ST/WoD when ppl abandon it just because they can't beat the last boss. they want to leave without getting punished but the people who voted no have to redo the whole raid from the beginning. it sucks.
    So you just want a way out instead of sticking to it without eating the timer.

    You do realize that when people leave a dungeon that the remaining members are pretty much screwed, right?
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunspec View Post
    You know what I DON'T understand, is why we still can't change roles in dungeon. If we are waiting for a tank, and I have ilevel 130 warrior gear in my bags, then why do I have to stand there for 15 minutes with a bow in my hands like an idiot?
    Because everyone else would abuse it; last minute swapping to ninja the loot, drama over who can stay and who gets booted based on what classes everyone has, etc. In fact, I'd bet no one would be willing to do anything unless people in the party have multiple roles under their belt.
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    Soube Miseux
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Because everyone else would abuse it; last minute swapping to ninja the loot, drama over who can stay and who gets booted based on what classes everyone has, etc. In fact, I'd bet no one would be willing to do anything unless people in the party have multiple roles under their belt.
    There are very easy ways to counter that, hell all they would have to do is add the same restrictions to switching classes that they do to booting someone. If in combat, or if there is loot in the pool, you can't switch classes. Boom, problem solved.

    As for the multiple classes or boot, the other players in the group would still have to agree to kick the person.

    And honestly, it's ridiculous in a game where you can level all classes on one character that they restrict you to one class for ANY content. (Except class/job quests for obvious reasons.)
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    Last edited by Kiroh; 05-24-2015 at 01:59 PM.

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    Gilraen Bior
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    And honestly, it's ridiculous in a game where you can level all classes on one character that they restrict you to one class for ANY content. (Except class/job quests for obvious reasons.)
    Thank 1.0 for that. No, really. Late in 1.# when end game groups ran dungeons they required you be able to switch to specific classes to front-load bosses (there were no locks on switching classes save if you were under aggro) or they would remove you from the party, which then had the same effect as Vote Kick if you were in a dungeon. It forced people into leveling classes they probably didn't want to (I only have 7 classes at 50, one just for getting a retainer to 50) just so they could be 'viable' in endgame.
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