Machinist Ammo System.

[Radacci]

As much archer characters have been given the image of a mobile shooting character, it nice they added something in that gives the Archer/Bard the ability to perform like a actual Archer and focus on a Archer's Precision when shooting their arrows at a target which also suits the theme of the skill improving the Bard's Damage by sacrificing mobility and blindy spamming arrows for a Position and Aim Stance.

just gonna put this here. Since an actual archer isn't really what you think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEG-ly9tQGk

[Nutz]

just gonna put this here. Since an actual archer isn't really what you think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEG-ly9tQGk

That's damn impressive. Apparently historical archery is nothing like most people believe. If anything Archers in this game are terrible with their incredibly low arrow output, but maybe that's a consequence of having to summon your arrows from the void or whatever it is they do.

[Slirith]

just gonna put this here. Since an actual archer isn't really what you think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEG-ly9tQGk

doing that in combat? don't see it working too too well under attack(melee wise). Then again this is a RPG

[Omegakiyohime]

just gonna put this here. Since an actual archer isn't really what you think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEG-ly9tQGk

Just gonna put this here since an actual archer might not be really what you think.
http://geekdad.com/2015/01/danish-archer/
http://www.lykopis.com/lars-andersen-fact-or-fiction/

Lars is impressive, no doubt, but there have been some well reasoned responses to his historical interpretation and the methods that he used to come to this discovery. Not saying he is wrong, but being impressive doesn't make him the end all be all on archery.

[Alberel]

just gonna put this here. Since an actual archer isn't really what you think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEG-ly9tQGk

I hope you're aware that video is about as far from combat archery as you can get. It's performance archery, designed to impress gullible audiences with clever tricks that would serve no real purpose in combat.

http://www.snopes.com/info/news/larsandersen.asp

http://nerdist.com/did-that-danish-a...hole-internet/

Whilst all of his stunts are real as far as anyone has been able to tell none of them are practical. Most of them took him dozens of attempts (anything more than one in a real combat situation would mean a dead archer) and many of them saw him using special props, such as a slow-moving, chunkier bamboo arrow when he shot one out of the air. His rapid-fire shots are all done at close range as well... firing at that speed would severely limit accuracy and arrow flight speed (making the weapon far less dangerous).

What he does in that video is both impressive and highly skilled but it has absolutely nothing at all to do with real combat archery. Most of the historical 'facts' he mentions are completely made up as well, he just counts on no one actually bothering to do any research into the actual history of archery to discredit him.

[EdwinLi]

just gonna put this here. Since an actual archer isn't really what you think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEG-ly9tQGk

Those are not real archery combat styles. Just fancy tricks to appease the people.

Before people started doing fancy tricks in Archery, Archery was more about position and aiming.

It is nice that Archer/Bard is finally getting a Archery stance now and function more like a Normal Archer with this new song.

I hope you're aware that video is about as far from combat archery as you can get. It's performance archery, designed to impress gullible audiences with clever tricks that would serve no real purpose in combat.

http://www.snopes.com/info/news/larsandersen.asp

http://nerdist.com/did-that-danish-a...hole-internet/

Whilst all of his stunts are real as far as anyone has been able to tell none of them are practical. Most of them took him dozens of attempts (anything more than one in a real combat situation would mean a dead archer) and many of them saw him using special props, such as a slow-moving, chunkier bamboo arrow when he shot one out of the air. His rapid-fire shots are all done at close range as well... firing at that speed would severely limit accuracy and arrow flight speed (making the weapon far less dangerous).

What he does in that video is both impressive and highly skilled but it has absolutely nothing at all to do with real combat archery. Most of the historical 'facts' he mentions are completely made up as well, he just counts on no one actually bothering to do any research into the actual history of archery to discredit him.

Ya the real archers were not acrobatic as certain people would make them out to be. They functioned more as the backline units and focused more on positioning and aiming. Close combat was their main weakness which is way a basic sword or other type of light weapons were used for their melee combat instead.

[Kotemon]

just gonna put this here. Since an actual archer isn't really what you think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEG-ly9tQGk

Some of that looks more like things Hunters would use through dense areas. War Archers were not running around about the battle field. Many were in rowed positions either kneeling in the front or standing behind. One row would fire second row would follow up with either a third row or back to the first row. This is how they created the volley of arrows.Repetitive draws of a bow will tire out a person after a while and they had to have a full draw to make them usefull. That's why a formation of three to five rows of archers would give them time to rest a bit so they can maintain output. Many would carry arrows in their hand and knock like that for lighter arrows and if the combat is close quarter. Others would just keep them in the ground where they stood, to taint their tips and to have them ready to fire. Also Chain mail was never strong to any type of piercing weapon. It only protected from cuts and slashing weapons.

As for the arrow knock being left or right. That depends on the bow and the style of draw you are using. Here are better videos about Archery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NrNIbWAWlw

and I counter that video with this one as it'll inadvertently explain the purpose of Wanderer's Minute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr_1z3GwxQk

Getting back to Machinist. I am wondering if they'll eventually get anything like Snap shot or Quick Draw. By the sounds of it it seems like they may eventually get an ability that'll ignore the amo stack for one attack or reduce the reload timer/recast to rebuff on amo for a set amount of time.

[EdwinLi]

Getting back to Machinist. I am wondering if they'll eventually get anything like Snap shot or Quick Draw. By the sounds of it it seems like they may eventually get an ability that'll ignore the amo stack for one attack or reduce the reload timer/recast to rebuff on amo for a set amount of time.

Won't be surprised if they do get more fancy gun skills. The Job Skill Trailer already shown Machinist having a trick shot skill with their bullets bouncing off magical mirrors.