egi where art thou?

[Zhamkyong]

Maybe you dont have to beat it.

In this ARR Lore anyone with the knowledge and crystals can summon a Primal. Hell, even Greg did summon Enkidu not knowing how. Taking Lady iceheart example, the new Bahamut powers looks like a safer and weakest method of summoning. You dont take the full power of Bahamut, just a fraction: Like the Egis.

Summoner is about toying with the energy of the Primals. We got the 2 methods of summoning of all the series now: Summoning a companion AND an attack of a primal.

Also, i am curious what new actions will the existing egis will gain with the upcoming 3.0 version.

[ShaolinMike]

Now i think of it, the Summoner new ability with the Bahamut ether thingy seems like what certain lady did in Akh Afah Amphitheatre... If you take that into account, its pretty awesome. I wonder if they will add some appearance changes during the buff.

The video showed some sort of Bahamut animation when you go into Trance, but there's no appearance change otherwise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbvv0rgrT4k

[Causality]

Makes no sense for anyone who hasn't beaten Bahamut, that's for sure.

We don't have to be. We were all there when he Burst out of Dalamud in story even if we weren't 1.0 Players. That is the story line laid out for us in 2.0.

[Xenosan]

They did mention changing the battle effects of the pets in the LL. Changing visual effects of egi abilities; meaning that the caster egi for example could change appearance based on which of it's pet actions is used: 1 attacks gives it the garuda skin, next would give it ramuh, it defaults to autoattacking as emerald carbuncle.

This would require the renaming of some pet actions as well as new graphic effects to go alongside them, but the action itself remains the same. Purely aesthetic. IDK if that is intended for 3.0 ready, but I'm not crazy, they did touch on the visuals.

they moved fast there at the end, but thats what I interpreted.

[WyrahFhurrst]

We don't have to be. We were all there when he Burst out of Dalamud in story even if we weren't 1.0 Players. That is the story line laid out for us in 2.0.

You don't just get to summon a Primal because he burst out of a moon. That's not how Egis work. You need to beat them first and I think that's what Riepah was getting at: the need to defeat a Primal and bathe in their aether so that one can summon their power.

[Zohar_Lahar]

Makes no sense for anyone who hasn't beaten Bahamut, that's for sure.

I'm guessing that Bahamut's backstory will be a focus of the new SMN job quests. They did say he would be featured in a "side story" in Heavensward (and job quests are technically side stories).

[Geaux]

3rd different thread I'll post this....

Man some of you are the biggest crybabies.... You get amazing buffs and a freaking Ahk Morn but you wanna complain about an egi that was gonna be average at best and you know it.

Applying all 3 dots at once for great burst utility.... Are you guys kidding me ???

Grow up people. We got handed something great..... I'm super excited to play my Smn.

You could be anticipating Dark Knight only to find out they don't out tank Pld or out Dps War......Plus not informed from there what they actually bring to the party.

Actually godlike abilities > an egi skin that does auto attacks and lack luster abilities.

Make the current Egi's better > get more of the average in 1-2 more summons......



Once you realize this , you'll feel better.




P.S. We have Ahk Morn.

[Yoohre_WildRiver]

geaux, i chose SMN because is a pet job, a pet job should focus on its pets, while i wont tell you i don't like ahk Morn, i would rather have had a pet with the ability to cast ahk morn.

its like saying here have beastmaster but you can only control ladybugs!

ehh that would be ladybug master

[Yoohre_WildRiver]

also most people that dont seem to have SMN job as their main job are saying hey dont cry you get to do bigger numbers ahk morn AHK MORN BOOM CRIT BOOM BOOM!!.. please take into account that we main SMN for the play style..pet management playstyle if i wanted a big boom spell, i would roll BLM and cast fire 4

[Lethorian]

What job are you playing that there is pet management? Did you mean DoT management? The only Pet management I really see is "oh ifrit, you're in the way of something, get over there quick. Quick! QUICKER! QUI-... Oh not fast enough, there goes my DPS."

Or this one is one I like a lot. "Oh contagion is up, but my DoT only has a few seconds left on it, I can make it. Garuda contagion. Garuda, HELLOOOO! HURRY HURRY HURR-. Oh way to contagion after that DoT fell off."

The Pets are highly unresponsive and there isn't very much interaction between them in the first place. Why anyone want MORE of THIS beats the hell out of me. Right now SE is taking SMN the "Shiva Route" where we channel a Primal's power through ourselves, so lore wise it fits as to why we can have this power, it looks like it gives SMN an actual FEELING of power, and I would much prefer that they take SMN further in the direction in the future.

TL;DR- Let SE fix the issue with egis instead of piling more garbage on top of the system.