The whole Summoner "has been re-worked" is sad

[Amatsuhira]

when low level mobs have things like Blaze and Ice Spikes and your summons do not, you should be questioning the devs.

[Freyah]

Personally, I really can't see us being allowed to spam cast 3 dots at once indefinitely, the cynic in me says there will be some sort of lengthy cool down to act as penalty.
Where does bane and fester fit in ? Will they still remain relevant ?

Really disappointed that we don't get any new egi's.

The devs seem to have gone down the warlock route from a certain other game.

Meh they'll be giving us chaos bolts next ;p

For now, I'll give em the benefit of the doubt and see how it plays

[Nestama]

Ifrit is a punching bag for every close ranged skill in the game and often a liability due to his need to close the gap.

And yet most SMN's I know use him for Final Coil, since he's better than Garuda. Especially if a MNK (Dragon Kick) and and NIN/WAR (Dancing Edge/Storm's Eye) are in the party.

[Yukiko]

Just some random thoughts:
1-> What if you have only familiar skills, so each attack skill and defence skill is in fact a summon?
2-> What if most if not all are instant summonings?
3-> What if those summons do more actions the longer you stay still and write formulas into air?
4-> What if the initial attack or action is the main aim (lets say damage on boss) and the longer you sommoned it the addidional actions are in effect or the more enemies will be hit one by one (debuffs or buffs)
5-> What if each Familiar have its own cooldown (no global cooldowns!), so you have to strategically choose which egi when...
(Edit: 6 -> What if those additional effects while staying still are not automatic actions, but you can control them? similar to skillbarchange while riding magitec or gobbue?)

Before you flame about moving mecahnics: I played all content in this game as main class SMN

[Noxifer]

FROM THE DIGEST SUMMARY
"However, I’m sure many are wondering if they will have to continue looking at the same egi forever, but we are planning to add a system in the future that will allow you to change the appearance of your egis, including Carbuncle, but their stats will remain the same."

Egi glamour so most likely new egi appearances plus carbuncles! :D

SMN: "GO GO CASTER-PET TITAN!"
Titan: *lobs tiny rocks at enemies*

IMO, even they change Tri-Disaster to Tri-Bind, it still useless (And "somehow" useful in PvP). It's consuming MP alot compared with BLM's Blizzard II.

I know D: It's like...
NPC: "OH YEAH! Here's your awesome new spell, you master Summoner you! Blizzard II Tri-Disaster!"
SMN: "...wait a minute. I could bind enemies thirty levels ago!" *casts Blizzard II on NPC* "This spell sucks! D: I thought I'd be getting something GOOD at this level."
NPC: "Oh, you're right. It doesn't really live up to its name, does it. Well, I have the solution. Your spell is now called Tri-Bind! See? It doesn't suck anymore, does it? :D"

[Tannlore]

And yet most SMN's I know use him for Final Coil, since he's better than Garuda. Especially if a MNK (Dragon Kick) and and NIN/WAR (Dancing Edge/Storm's Eye) are in the party.

This is true. I use him, and swift cast in Garuda for my contagion usage. I do favor Garuda in fights where I lack a nin/war and monk however. I can't always have these two/three jobs present, esp in normal dungeons.

[Khaoticsuccubus]

Come on SMN guys ! You get to Summon Bahamuts Head ! Get 3 Bahamut ether stacks and use the al mighty Akh Morn !

Isn't that enough?

Anyways. I'll just go back to pretending summoner was never added into the game. Scholar is way more interesting anyway. There is no wait and see for me. What little hope I held onto was used up on this reveal. No hope left to wait and see with. Too bad too. Summoner af2 looks awesome. Way better than the crap that was summoner af1 lol

What can Ya do ƪ(‾ε‾“)ʃ

[Mature]

I'm main smn and I'm pretty happy with what they done with it. But I think contagion should a smn ability not a pet one

[Tannlore]

I'm main smn and I'm pretty happy with what they done with it. But I think contagion should a smn ability not a pet one

I so agree with this. I was hoping they would have moved this off garuda and onto smn, but hopes dashed. *sigh*

[Wizarus]

And yet most SMN's I know use him for Final Coil, since he's better than Garuda. Especially if a MNK (Dragon Kick) and and NIN/WAR (Dancing Edge/Storm's Eye) are in the party.

Ifrit is a melee pet so naturally it does well in Melee friendly content like Final Coil. Outside of that Garuda still has way superior AOE capabilities, more survivability, requires less micromanaging and has utility knockback.