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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    Everyone seems to be hating on the SMN changes because they didn't get new egis. Nevermind the fact that the job itself needed some heavy reworking so it actually played like it was fun. But no, we have to get mad about pets, pets we would have been probably forced to choose one of or ignore alltogether (all hail garuda egi).
    Pets can be molded to fit encounter situations (like whether you'll be dealing with lots of adds or if the fight only has one target to kill). I think what's gotten to some people is their mentioning of pet glamours, which I take as them saying "yeah, we're not gonna make Leviathan/Ramuh/Shiva-egi, we'll just let you change Ifrit/Titan/Garuda-egi to look like them". To me at least, that's not a good thing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Khyra View Post
    Yep. Some people can't get over that its not how they would have designed Summoner, and somehow think SE is going to completely redesign (as opposed to reworking/tweaking) the job to their liking.
    Some of the things asked for were absolute no-brainers. Like changing Contagion into a SMN ability instead of a Garuda-egi ability.
    Its like the people in FFXI who, years into the game, still complained that RDM was not a melee mage. Like --- I get that you would prefer something else, but at this point obviously the basic concept is set. And some of us REALLY like it!
    I can't resent your embracing that thing that is the lovechild of an Oracle and a Time Mage, but let's not downplay the melee camp.

    Suffice to say, I didn't begin to feel like a Red Mage until Trusts came out. Been doing the free login thing, and having someone tank, someone heal, and someone DPS as I melee/WS/nuke a mob, throw off-heals at my leisure while wielding my firelit sword with NO complains and no requests for Refresh/Haste has been a dream come true. Too bad it took a decade and NPC AIs for it to happen.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Like changing Contagion into a SMN ability instead of a Garuda-egi ability.
    Quite frankly, we don't know that they didn't do that.

    Does anybody honestly think they talked about literally every class/job adjustment in this stream? Because I don't. They talked about what the existing jobs are getting after level 50, and gave a few points regarding changes to their pre-50 kits. We don't know any specifics about anything pre-50 except that Tri-Disaster is now Tri-Bind (though I can't help but think of that as Tri-JustCrossClassBlizz2 still).

    We know that existing pets are getting more abilities. Has anyone stopped to consider that the existing pet bars have no room for more buttons? Perhaps some of the existing buttons are being moved to the player. Maybe SMN and SCH will have to slot abilities in to a limited number of slots? We don't know.

    It isn't worth complaining about something we know very VERY little about.
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    Last edited by Callinon; 05-22-2015 at 01:00 PM. Reason: Wrong about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    We know that existing pets are getting more abilities.
    Just wanted to point out this is false, or at the very least was never mentioned during the live letter. Not sure where people are getting this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spellbinder View Post
    Just wanted to point out this is false, or at the very least was never mentioned during the live letter. Not sure where people are getting this.
    Hmm, I really thought I heard him say that, but it seems you're right. It isn't in the official summary. Maybe I misunderstood.
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