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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
    Either A.) The singing in this case helps us "concentrate" (despite being able to sing another song alongside it) so our charged shots, aside from the charge, are hitting better areas (not quite critical hits but closer.)

    Or B.) We are singing "I love you" at the top of our voices, weakening enemy morale and thus making them easier to kill.

    (Also I'm not a Bard main, but I'm in the crowd of "probably good".)
    I much more wonder how the hell we're supposed to be able to sing two songs at once in the first place. Should've just called it a "Stance" or "Mode" like for other classes, really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riepah View Post
    I much more wonder how the hell we're supposed to be able to sing two songs at once in the first place. Should've just called it a "Stance" or "Mode" like for other classes, really.
    Probably in a similar way as Chet Atkins played "Yankee Doodle" and "Dixie" at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Every Bard on the FFXIV Forums
    pls yoshi-p senpai i will sacrifice all my movement for extra deeps
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    Not me and I have mained BRD since 1.23. I was practically forced to level something else because the rooting caused almost everyone to hate BRDs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riepah View Post
    I much more wonder how the hell we're supposed to be able to sing two songs at once in the first place. Should've just called it a "Stance" or "Mode" like for other classes, really.
    According to some other threads I've seen XI did allow not only two songs at once, but even four at once! Which is even wierder. Mayhaps its more of when you sing both songs, you kinda combine them into one. Mash-ups and all that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
    According to some other threads I've seen XI did allow not only two songs at once, but even four at once! Which is even wierder. Mayhaps its more of when you sing both songs, you kinda combine them into one. Mash-ups and all that.
    You could have two songs up on each party member per bard, but it required having an instrument equipped offhand, and you couldn't have double of a song up. There were also about 20 times as many songs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    You could have two songs up on each party member per bard, but it required having an instrument equipped offhand, and you couldn't have double of a song up. There were also about 20 times as many songs.
    Still not exactly something that would be easy to do, and thats BEFORE we start talking about doing so in battle. That said it makes sense, more so if one song is considered voice and the other instrumental I guess.

    Though now I wonder where I got the "one person could do 4 songs at once" thing from...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
    Still not exactly something that would be easy to do, and thats BEFORE we start talking about doing so in battle. That said it makes sense, more so if one song is considered voice and the other instrumental I guess.

    Though now I wonder where I got the "one person could do 4 songs at once" thing from...
    If I'm not remembering wrong, the maximum number of songs that could be affecting you was 4, but that would require two bards in the party.

    So according Zhexos' update, the buff doesn't prevent movement like I originally though. It basically turns BRD into a caster. I'm still not happy to hear that and question why that wasn't reserved for a future ranged DPS class.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    So.. with this new found information I guess we can say that Bard is now MOSTLY dead. As you all know, there's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one thing you can do.

    What's that you ask?

    Why, Go through their pockets and look for unused minions of course!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    If I'm not remembering wrong, the maximum number of songs that could be affecting you was 4, but that would require two bards in the party.

    So according Zhexos' update, the buff doesn't prevent movement like I originally though. It basically turns BRD into a caster. I'm still not happy to hear that and question why that wasn't reserved for a future ranged DPS class.
    And thus I have learned new things, thank you.

    As for the buff: Alot of people did say they were willing to trade mobility for dps, and they got it. You can still turn it off and go to normal dps as it currently is, and there probably will be times when not having it on will be for the better.
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