SE plz nerf zodiac quest ....

[Kyuuen]

100's of runs isn't exaggerated? Oh really. Thank goodness most don't come here cause they would sure get a warped idea of reality when it comes to relic. My experience in world is certainly not what is portrayed here as common place but then again that's my view, my experience and my opinion and everyone is entitled to one right even if they choose to exaggerate the facts.

How is it warped if drops are based on RNG? You and I got our drops somewhat reasonably, and there have been numerous threads with people stating they are on their 50th, 60th, 70th run of a dungeon and had yet to see a single drop, so why is it so hard to believe that 100's of runs is within the realm of possibilities?

[Warlyx]

SE wont nerf ZETA until Heavenward Relic quest starts , will be pointless giving a head advantage to ppl with zeta if u nerf it before that.

[Kyuuen]

SE wont nerf ZETA until Heavenward Relic quest starts , will be pointless giving a head advantage to ppl with zeta if u nerf it before that.

This is about the step before Zeta. The dungeon drops. ;P

Besides I don't think the second light grind needs a nerf, can be done fairly easily in a weeks time 2-3 hours a day, if that even...

[Gilraen]

Actually we do know what they look like, but that's pretty much all we know. You see them front and center in the new benchmark and they were showcased alongside AF2 in some of the recent Heavensward promotional videos.

They need to stop nerfing evertying. If I wanted an easy time I'd go play barbies horse adventure.

Uh... what? One of these things is not in reference to the other. I think you meant to reference this...

Honestly, I don't think anyone's said anything about Relic getting nerfed. All I've heard is that Heavensward will see the process of getting one become easier, though how much easier isn't known. That's it. Relic will still be Relic, and still be the best in slot (after Novus) until Mythic.

[Aethaeryn]

How is it warped if drops are based on RNG? You and I got our drops somewhat reasonably, and there have been numerous threads with people stating they are on their 50th, 60th, 70th run of a dungeon and had yet to see a single drop, so why is it so hard to believe that 100's of runs is within the realm of possibilities?

Because the chance of going hundreds of runs without a drop is really small. That being said, it's possible despite it being extremely unlikely, but it shouldn't be possible at all. It would not have been difficult to make sure that you get something like a pity drop after so many runs to prevent some of the ridiculous bad luck some people have had. I've done three weapons, and my dungeon totals were each 25-30 dungeons apart, which is kind of silly.

[Gunspec]

I'll say this... I haven't been playing the last few weeks because there is nothing in 2.x that I want to do. A massive buff to relic item drop rates would bring me back to farm more than just the single Zeta that I have.

Something I like in other mmos is that they occasionally have limited time "events" that massively boost acquisition rates for certain things. Although FFXIV doesn't have many types of loot that they could boost, it would still be cool if they did something like that moving forward. Instead of permanently changing drop rates, they could host an "alexandrite week" where fates have a 50% or higher drop rate, or a "pony week" where the ponies get a major drop rate buff. I know I would definitely log in for those kind of events.

[Alberel]

Exaggerate much? Hey how about thousands of runs... maybe that'll support your .00001 percent outlier hypothesis. Really it'll get nerfed at some point like everything else. The fact of the matter is dungeons runs do even out over the long haul. I've had a bit of experience with it so I know (I have 5 Zeta's). You're entitled to your view and I'm sure the developers have a pretty good idea of how well the relic runs are going. I see relics everywhere and that is pretty good evidence to me at least that the process is certainly doable for many.

Dungeon drop rates will be improved over time as well, I think that is something the community can count on.

It's not an exaggeration at all, it's fact. Do you understand how RNG works? When you use pure RNG as SE does there is a chance that someone will NEVER see something drop. Not many people but SOME will. That's not exaggeration, that is fact. The odds have no cumulative effect under RNG like this; if you are exceptionally unlucky you will be completely screwed by the system.

If there is even a SINGLE player in the game who encounters that situation there is a problem. We need a Smart RNG system to cap outliers like that. It would completely end these threads as well.

[Lillia]

when i was a new player, everyone else was new as well. when i said in my other posts why shud we help new player i didnt mean it that way, so dont quote me on that, if u have actually read the post fullly you would understand that i love helping new players out, but the only issue/complain, is why are we forced to help new player to get our weapon done, why force it? why not let us decide also which new player to help, maybe i prefer helping someone in my server rather than the random duty finder person that i will never meet again.

I mention in my old posts , that helping new players is something i do on a daily basis, and it's really something i enjoy doing as well, i craft items for people i just met and show them which quests they need to unlock and what they shud be doing next. this is something i love doing. so please do not judge a whole post, based on a sentante u read without reading or understand the full picture.

You're right, I actually read the whole thread..... >_> You contradict your own words a lot and I just hope that one day you'll understand just how awful that really is. Especially when you're going on to say how you'll help some newbie or stranger in your server/craft for them but in DF you don't believe in helping strangers lol...

Btw, you're 'forced' to help others in DF for this as a way to resolve people not doing older content. You can also just make a pre-made. :/

Ciao.

[Rath]

Adding in a counter to give you a drop after so many runs is no different than tomes. If they did that it would have to be an exorbitant amount and they would remove the chance at a drop to make it fair. Relic was added as an alternative to raiding. So the tasks are stupid easy and time consuming. No need to need it.

[Izsha]

Keep grinding or wait till heavensward to drop. SE already said they will nerf it in expac and it's a few weeks away.

Grind or wait. Either way chilax.