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    What they need is right click repot after so many reports the account is frozen until unlocked by a GM. If it is indeed an RMT or other spam then the account is banned.
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    Last edited by Tuathaa; 05-15-2015 at 10:44 PM.

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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Well come Heavensward the bots are going to be largely screwed since they will need to complete the story to access any of the expansion areas and content. That means the bots will have a hard time farming anything in 3.0 and if they get banned they have to play through all that story content again on a new account.

    It won't directly impede their /tell spam but it should severely harm their productivity which might scare them off a bit.
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    Dererk Titan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuathaa View Post
    What they need is right click repot after so many reports the account is frozen until unlocked by a GM. If it is indeed an RMT or other spam then the account is banned.

    This crap really? Again? Really?

    This has been suggested so many times already.

    AND AGAIN NO IT IS NOT A GOOD IDEA. It would be used by trolls and the like to harass people so no it is not a good idea to click report so many reports lock the person JUST NO GAWD

    Real best way to combat RMT is for people to stop buying friking Gil from them so here's how it needs to be the so called people who do buy Gil GET GUD OR GTFO.

    And if that last remark offended any one sorry but only really most unskilled person would bother buying Gil and their in the wrong game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dererk View Post
    This crap really? Again? Really
    Apparently this is the only mmo you have ever played. WoW handles it this was as well as SWTOR and GW.
    You will never get people to stop buying gil it will never happen so get that notion out of your head. The only to control it is with a decent reporting, investigation and banning process.
    Their systems also put the person reported on an ignore list until you re log which combats the trolling.
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    Last edited by Tuathaa; 05-15-2015 at 11:20 PM.

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    The reason I brought up timers on character creation/deletion is because Elder Scrolls Online uses a tamer version ( can only delete 3 characters per every 24 hours ) and it does work to curb the spam. I think I remember less than a handful of /tells from RMT toons in the 4+ months I played ESO. And ESO is buy to play, not even a sub required. But that box price PLUS deletion limits make a pretty good deterrent. I say 48 hours for FFXIV for both creation and deletion simply because FFXIV's RMT population is completely out of control. I haven't seen a game this thick with RMT outside of FFXI ( which doesn't give me much hope as we all know how S-E let that situation fester for most of that games life before taking any real action ) and the crappy Korean assembly line mmos.

    Putting limits on an RMT'ers ability to advertise what they're trying to sell is the easiest way to push them to target games with more lenient measures.

    While it's true you can never get rid of them completely, this can make the RMT'ers job as hard as possible AND give players a bit of a respite from the constant spam spam spam.

    But even with this added, or any other measures that others have proposed, if S-E isn't willing to use the banhammer for every spam account reported ( and give up that money from spammers rebuying the game to make new accounts, as they'll soon tire of spending that chunk of cash everytime a spam account gets banned after only being able to spam one time. RMT having to spend $30+ for one advertisement = quickly depreciating profit ), then they might as well tell us now so we can all move on.

    In fact, if S-E is willing to get on the ball, you wouldn't even need the deletion limit, simple the "one character per account every 48 hours". That's ONE time, and only ONE character on that entire account can be used to spam before it goes bye-bye ( and 48 hours give a small team of banhammers the ability to keep up with the bannings without becoming overwhelmed ).
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    Last edited by Zorvan; 05-15-2015 at 11:20 PM.

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    My solution is simple. Players stop buying the money so that the RMT have no market. Done.

    In many ways you can only blame the players for giving these people a market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    My solution is simple. Players stop buying the money so that the RMT have no market. Done.

    In many ways you can only blame the players for giving these people a market.
    Someone who gets it. Remove the market, sellers leave as no profit to be made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Someone who gets it. Remove the market, sellers leave as no profit to be made.
    Someone who doesn't get it. In a perfect world yes this is the solution but realistically you will never get people to stop. Even if SE started selling it themselves there will still be RMT spam.
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuathaa View Post
    Someone who doesn't get it. In a perfect world yes this is the solution but realistically you will never get people to stop. Even if SE started selling it themselves there will still be RMT spam.
    Sadly true. Guild Wars 2 even has goldsellers and they already have a built-in gem market where you can buy gold legally!
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    Player Zorvan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    My solution is simple. Players stop buying the money so that the RMT have no market. Done.

    In many ways you can only blame the players for giving these people a market.
    That would stop the overall gil sales eventually, yes. My solution is simply to get rid of the advertisements and make things harder for the RMT people.

    Banning those who buy gil is an obvious tactic as well, but proving who bought gil and who simply made a trade not even knowing the other player was an RMT ( and an experienced RMTer WILL involve unknowing legit players to muddy the waters of any investigation simply because they know any dev company will always err on the side of caution before letting themselves get tangled up by banning legit players ). It can be done, it's just a lot more involved.
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