My idea for cutting RMT.

[Shneibel]

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if you think all the bots spam are from china, you will have a bad time

[Lemuria]

if you think all the bots spam are from china, you will have a bad time

No, but I'm willing to bet the vast majority of them are. There's no money to be made in advertising if every new bot costs you $40. Besides, I doubt it's merely coincidence that the explosion in RMT spam happens to fall around the same date as the Chinese release.

[Shneibel]

RMT spam happens to fall around the same date as the Chinese release.

we already got RMT spam before that. And they have their own server, with different client & version

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...inese_servers/

[Ashkendor]

No, but I'm willing to bet the vast majority of them are. There's no money to be made in advertising if every new bot costs you $40. Besides, I doubt it's merely coincidence that the explosion in RMT spam happens to fall around the same date as the Chinese release.

Ehhhh. I don't think Chinese players can login to US or JP servers using the Chinese client.

[Welsper59]

Ehhhh. I don't think Chinese players can login to US or JP servers using the Chinese client.

Indeed, but it's definitely not something difficult to get around. China in general has a very strict set of rules when it comes to the internet. So much so, that they set up what is known as the Great Firewall (of China). To get around this, practically everyone in China that is or knows of someone that is a little tech savvy has installed a VPN to bypass this whenever they have need to. These things don't always work however, as they tend to crack down on these servers, but those devs tend to find ways around it soon after. I'm not sure about today, but a long time ago (~10yrs) it was dominantly Chinese folks doing the RMT related activity. They would simply use Western domains to sell these goods, which was typically under some Western mother IP that benefits from the sales (be it that they had some connection to RMT activity starting or not). There were several documentaries at the time when this whole practice came to light.

[Ashkendor]

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Right, but the person I quoted was saying was that Chinese were abusing their pay-as-you-go "subscription" arrangement in order to sell gil on our servers. I don't think the Chinese client can access NA/EU/JP servers at all. China has a slightly different version of the game because of restrictions on what you're allowed to show in games there.

[Welsper59]

Right, but the person I quoted was saying was that Chinese were abusing their pay-as-you-go "subscription" arrangement in order to sell gil on our servers. I don't think the Chinese client can access NA/EU/JP servers at all. China has a slightly different version of the game because of restrictions on what you're allowed to show in games there.

Ah gotcha.