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    I have to sit through storyline while I play a Final Fantasy game.
    Oh no.

    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Nah, it's not like CoP at all. While CoP DID have areas that were locked away until you completed content, ALL of the content you had to complete was included with the expansion. You didn't have to make a speck of progress in the base game or in Rise of the Zilart. As long as you could bring your character to Delkfutt's Tower, you could start the CoP missions and eventually access everything that expansion had to offer.
    I think the dude you're talking to meant Rise of the Zilart. That requires rank 6 in your home nation (vanilla scenario completion, for those that haven't played FFXI) and is more similar to Heavensward, given the fact it's content is designed for level 50+, included a level cap rise, new jobs, new areas, new endgame, and Heavensward is pretty much the same thing. The comparison to CoP is obviously moot, given that CoP was designed for levels 30+ since combat started in Promyvion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by faris View Post
    I think the dude you're talking to meant Rise of the Zilart.
    Nah, pretty sure he meant CoP. There was a lot of outrage in that game when it was learned that so much of it was locked behind storyline progression. "We can't even go to Lufaise Meadows unless we beat the Promyvions, and the Promyvions are haaaaard!" The whining is similar now (minus the "haaaaard" part - there are very few that will claim that vanila FFXIV ARR has much in the way of challenges to offer to complete Main Scenario; the complaint now is how friggin' MUCH of it there is), but I feel like it's much more justified since in CoP the content locking you away from CoP content was... other CoP content.

    I also addressed RotZ in my post, and acknowledged the fact that it did require vanila Main Scenario completion. I also noted that it, too, offered plenty WITHOUT Main Scenario completion, including new zones of a variety of level ranges, as well as access to all the new jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    I also addressed RotZ in my post, and acknowledged the fact that it did require vanila Main Scenario completion. I also noted that it, too, offered plenty WITHOUT Main Scenario completion, including new zones of a variety of level ranges, as well as access to all the new jobs.
    We don't know for sure that all of the new 3.0 zones will be gated behind MS completion, so far all we know for sure that is gated is Ishgard and the new jobs. They already hinted at West Shroud being added, and I'd be surprised if an area so far away from Ishgard was gated behind it.
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