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  1. #481
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    I don't think Mid is even physically here, I think he is speaking in our head, his body is just a creation of our mind.
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    Aria Placida
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    I can't remember if you had Alphinaud and Cid with you on your first visit with Haurchefant, if so they can forewarn him about your "uniqueness" as far as denizens of Eorzea go through 2.x.
    Well, at that point in the story Cid isn't quite himself yet (doesn't fully come back until after Enterprise engages), and I don't *think* Alphinaud has the clout that he comes to have as the story advances.

    Quote Originally Posted by lololink View Post
    I don't think Mid is even physically here, I think he is speaking in our head, his body is just a creation of our mind.
    But if he's not there, how are we supposed to ride around on Mountgardsormr?
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  3. #483
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    Kai Magnus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samcaesar View Post
    The horns are questionable yes, but we have knowledge that dragons can adapt to basically any environment, and to the paranoid Ishgardians, who took simple accusation or just a box of heretic charms as proof of herecy, looking like a dragon might as well be the next trick Dravania has up its sleeves.
    Come to think of it, I don't recall fighting ANY Dravnians that actually had horns. Horns seem to be more of a Voidsent thing than a Dragon Thing in Eorzea. Almost all Voidsent have them but I don't recall ever seeing a Dragon with one. And I've killed A LOT of dragons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    Come to think of it, I don't recall fighting ANY Dravnians that actually had horns. Horns seem to be more of a Voidsent thing than a Dragon Thing in Eorzea. Almost all Voidsent have them but I don't recall ever seeing a Dragon with one. And I've killed A LOT of dragons.
    I think the split is pretty even actually, shoot if you look in the Heavensward opening move, basically all those dragons have horns, I think it might be a hierarchy sort of thing of the scalekin, with lesser dragons like the aevis lacking horns, while the higher class ones such as Vishap or those ones assaulting Ishgard have very noticeable horns. Voidsent is a pretty big catagory too, which ranges from stuff like primals and elementals basically too, though the demons and succubi do have horns (Which the Au Ra seem to be pulling more of their look from) , though the succubi also have the presence of ears, which is something the Au Ra lack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    Come to think of it, I don't recall fighting ANY Dravnians that actually had horns. Horns seem to be more of a Voidsent thing than a Dragon Thing in Eorzea. Almost all Voidsent have them but I don't recall ever seeing a Dragon with one. And I've killed A LOT of dragons.
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  6. #486
    Player Kaiser-Ace's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by lololink View Post
    Huhm would ya look at that. Must've been to busy killing them to get a good look at em.
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    Maybe they once lobbed an Au Ra traveller off those cliffs and when he or she went splat at the bottom the went 'hmm, maybe we were wrong about them being dragons'.
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    There is the possibility that Ishgard may have already studied the Au Ra and have acknowledged the fact that they are not related to dragons despite their outside appearance, or some scholars from Sharlayan did and shared said knowledge at some point in time. Like many things, we (the adventurer) may just be out of the loop at the end of the day, while everyone else "knows" these facts about them and just didn't bother ever bringing it up. I doubt they've been hidden away in secret for centuries.
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  9. #489
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    Maybe they once lobbed an Au Ra traveller off those cliffs and when he or she went splat at the bottom the went 'hmm, maybe we were wrong about them being dragons'.
    "Well, that last dragon-like person didn't suddenly become a dragon... But maybe this one will!" Then they toss more Au Ra off the cliff! As they do with all supposed heretics or anyone with a smidgen of dragon relationship. Wouldn't be surprised if that's how we get Mountgardsormr to be honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samcaesar View Post
    "Well, that last dragon-like person didn't suddenly become a dragon... But maybe this one will!" Then they toss more Au Ra off the cliff! As they do with all supposed heretics or anyone with a smidgen of dragon relationship. Wouldn't be surprised if that's how we get Mountgardsormr to be honest.
    Perhaps the heretic inquisitor incident taught them that not all problems can be solved with a cliff.
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