Why Not Remodel the Summons?

[TheFatHousecat]

i'd love it if the summons were the same exact models as in XI.

The dev team's argument is to "simplify" their presence (and reduce cpu/gpu processing power).

Same exact models as in XI, reduce them to sch fairy sizes, and im sold and I'll overlook the fact that the XIV smn kit is unoriginal.

You're under the impression it matters to sell you on summoner and that it matters at all whether or not you overlook anything. That's adorable.

[Lorielle]

You know what's funny? Lore is irrelevant to the design of Egis. Lore only explains how we are able to summon them. I don't particularly recall it myself, but I do not believe the quest says the reason why Egis look they way they are is because X Reason(if it does, then I simply stand corrected). You can very well still 'enslave' that small fraction of power under a design that actually looks like their respective primal.

[Svalitz]

We all know the story behind this but that is not an excuse for ugly little sparkly something that garuda egi actually is.

Seriously this.

PEOPLE. PLEASE LISTEN.

Why do we as players continuously give the devs REASONS WHY the current lame-ness of Summoner is OKAY? It's not!

Every time I see a thread like this created it's the same old bs from the community.

"But the lore!"

"But The summons would be too big!"

"But ____ (insert another excuse here)".


Yet everyone agrees that the Egis are lame. I haven't met a single player that is satisfied with the current status of Summoner as a job class.


SO PLEASE STOP DEFENDING THE POOR DESIGN CHOICES THEY HAVE MADE FFS.

Only then, when everyone stops supporting SE's poor implementations will changes be made. Only when we speak out against what we have will they listen and alter it. It's really simple people.

You want big FFXI sized Summon pets? ASK FOR IT. They can CHANGE the lore to suit it you know. Jeez. BUT ONLY IF THE MAJORITY OF PLAYERS ASK FOR IT.
So lets stop squabbling amongst ourselves and team up to help create a better Summoner. Because right now, what we have does not deserve the title of Summoner...not by a long shot.

/endrant.

[KisaiTenshi]

You know what's funny? Lore is irrelevant to the design of Egis. Lore only explains how we are able to summon them. I don't particularly recall it myself, but I do not believe the quest says the reason why Egis look they way they are is because X Reason(if it does, then I simply stand corrected). You can very well still 'enslave' that small fraction of power under a design that actually looks like their respective primal.

I recently did the Summoner stuff, and the entire process of getting the -egi is you fighting a battle that is otherwise identical to the primal fight (complete with primal music) but with a much larger -egi, not the primal itself.

From a lore perspective you didn't summon the primal (only the beast tribes and buttload of crystals can do that) you only summoned "a fraction" of it. This can just as easily be represented with a super-deformed chibi as it can be with a monstrous version that's not the full size of the primal itself. The intent there is simply "a fraction" of the primal's power.

[Adire]

You're under the impression it matters to sell you on summoner and that it matters at all whether or not you overlook anything. That's adorable.

Another fine example of the welcoming attitude of the forums.

Someone posts a simple suggestion of what they would like to see personally, and they get told they don't matter.

[Lorielle]

From a lore perspective you didn't summon the primal (only the beast tribes and buttload of crystals can do that) you only summoned "a fraction" of it. This can just as easily be represented with a super-deformed chibi as it can be with a monstrous version that's not the full size of the primal itself. The intent there is simply "a fraction" of the primal's power.

So...Why do we get the poor design of Egi today if it can be easily represented with what everyone is asking?

[Havenae]

Most of the arguments against this are invalid.


Reduce gpu/cpu load?

Um look at fairies. Nicely done detailed models with high res textures.

They're just a fragment of the actual primals?

Okay, that's fine, very few people are asking for miniature versions of the primals. Most of us would just be happy if the graphic quality was improved. Better textures more defined models. Being fragments is fine but the current renditions just look like shit.

[MicahZerrshia]

With as many ppl asking for a redesign as there are I am seriously surprised SE isn't giving us one.

A handful of ppl complain about difficulty of X fight or Y dungeon and it gets echo bonuses, reduced difficulty and nerfed strength in the following patch.

Nearly every smn, minus a handful who want to explain why its ok one way or another, complains about the Egi and its all "wait, what? no I didn't hear that, nope they didn't say anything, that's just the hum of the coffee machine"

[Aryalandi]

"Most Summoners" mostly want the actual kinks in the job worked out, yes alot of people want prettier summons but shouldn't function come before looks? There are some bigger issues than bigger pets to fix first, i would imagine that those will be worked on long before any sort of model redesign happens.. or atleast i would hope so..

Also find it kind of funny how people that like the lore or who are fine with the current egi's get bashed by people who want them changed.. that is mildly hypocritical

[Misha_Snow]

The SCH's fairies are small but way more detailed compared to the balloons that follow the SMN.
This is an older game but with decent looking summons.