Letter from the Producer, XVI (08/15/2011)

[syntaxlies]

Or there were unforseeable problems with jobs that pushed them back, I believe somwhere they mentioned jobs would be in 1.19, but it wasnt discussed in the letter, which says jobs got delayed.

so if they take content out of of the end of summer plans it is fair to say they did not finish by the end of summer and their end of summer plans will most likely be end of fall-winter plans. You cant just take stuff out of the list and say you still made the deadline,lol, seriously.

[Delsus]

so if they take content out of of the end of summer plans it is fair to say they did not finish by the end of summer and their end of summer plans will most likely be end of fall-winter plans. You cant just take stuff out of the list and say you still made the deadline,lol, seriously.

So you are picking up one 1 delay, when they have listed or implemented everything else in the plans, guess what things get delayed, you maybe encounter a problem which you did not expect, it happens all the time with programming.

If you rage about 1 thing being delayed when they met all other plans then dont you appreciate the work the devs have put into this game, when they could have just pulled the plug

The devs work load has been huge, 1.18 and 1.19 could have had people working round the clock to get the content out.

[syntaxlies]

So you are picking up one 1 delay, when they have listed or implemented everything else in the plans, guess what things get delayed, you maybe encounter a problem which you did not expect, it happens all the time with programming.

If you rage about 1 thing being delayed when they met all other plans then dont you appreciate the work the devs have put into this game, when they could have just pulled the plug

The devs work load has been huge, 1.18 and 1.19 could have had people working round the clock to get the content out.

first off im not raging im stating facts. They said that was there end of summer plan, they did not deliver end of story. I really dont care when they are released, it was my main concern. The job system is a huge chunk of what the summer plans were all about without the end of summer plans are not complete, end of story. I dont know why you cant admit this.
If i had something to do at work and only finished 80% and was like ah, well you know it was more hen i thought my boss would tell me to go f myself.

im so sick of all the self appointed dev guardian angles who tell everyone on the forums to stfu because the devs are working so hard and well get it when we get it and all this other crap.

[northernsky]

They never said that they would implement the job system before summer end. There was word about determining attributes, assets, assessing the cost of implementation etc., but nothing about actually bringing it into game.

[Delsus]

first off im not raging im stating facts. They said that was there end of summer plan, they did not deliver end of story. I really dont care when they are released, it was my main concern. The job system is a huge chunk of what the summer plans were all about without the end of summer plans are not complete, end of story. I dont know why you cant admit this.
If i had something to do at work and only finished 80% and was like ah, well you know it was more hen i thought my boss would tell me to go f myself.

There had been delays, anyone that works in programming knows this can happen, yes they missed thier targets by not getting the job system in, but when the list was made everyone was saying they would not get half of it done, they have done alot more work than a normal mmo developer to get 1.18 and 1.19 (hopefully) within 2 months of each other, yes they missed thier targets but they have still done alot more work in these 2 months than most mmo developers do in 1 year. 1.19 looks like it will be really good, yes there arent jobs but I dont care because this is a huge patch and there will be enough to do until jobs are ready.

If you would prefer they could release completly broken and incomplete jobs, just so they would meet thier targets, but I would prefer a delay and the jobs to work and be complete before they release it.

[syntaxlies]

There had been delays, anyone that works in programming knows this can happen, yes they missed thier targets by not getting the job system in, but when the list was made everyone was saying they would not get half of it done, they have done alot more work than a normal mmo developer to get 1.18 and 1.19 (hopefully) within 2 months of each other, yes they missed thier targets but they have still done alot more work in these 2 months than most mmo developers do in 1 year. 1.19 looks like it will be really good, yes there arent jobs but I dont care because this is a huge patch and there will be enough to do until jobs are ready.

If you would prefer they could release completly broken and incomplete jobs, just so they would meet thier targets, but I would prefer a delay and the jobs to work and be complete before they release it.

i already said that i dont care that jobs were not implemented. I know they did allot of work and most likely worked their asses off. All im saying is they did not get everything done by the end of summer that they said they would. It seems you are very defensive against me stating the truth when it also seems we both agree on all of the above.

[Sorel]

All im saying is they did not get everything done by the end of summer that they said they would.

OK. Putting jobs aside because that was never included in the summer timeline ... what is the Development Team not getting done that they said they were going to get done ... specifically??

[Holland]

OK. Putting jobs aside because that was never included in the summer timeline ... what is the Development Team not getting done that they said they were going to get done ... specifically??

I have read over the end of summer work twice now. This here is what I would like to know also. Jobs were never included in the "End of summer work" so what are we missing? ....

[Malakhim]

OK. Putting jobs aside because that was never included in the summer timeline ... what is the Development Team not getting done that they said they were going to get done ... specifically??

As far as I can tell, everything they were planning for the end of Summer is there plus new stuff.

[TheVedis]

OK. Putting jobs aside because that was never included in the summer timeline ... what is the Development Team not getting done that they said they were going to get done ... specifically??

nothing is missing

what he thinks is wrong is that 1.20 isnt in summer, when a specific patch number was never mentioned just features they were gonna add