Why Not Remodel the Summons?

[KaedrianLiang]

Ramuh's mini-me

It would be great if the egi's had the personality and memories of their greater form, hearing ifrit trash talk to you every time you give him an order or have garuda spam "hehehehohohoho" every time she lands the killing blow on a target, Titan can always talk about flipping tables and restaurant destruction.

[Lemuria]

Somehow I think I'd be even more disappointed with summoner if their avatars looked like these big imposing beasts yet dealt as much damage as a four year old. I'd sooner they fix the latter problem and make them more useful before worrying about how they look.

[Adire]

SMN's should just be able to summon a black mage. All problems solved.

[nuyu11]

I want Ramuh, Lord of Levin, Primal of the Sylphs as my summons..

I want him to attack with his beardy swing-swing and tentacle beardy.

[Shougun]

Still looks bad imo, would still love to see them change. The argument that they would look and feel less powerful, I feel, is not true because in FFXI, heck pretty much any FF, they felt awesome (even though they weren't that crazy lol, just the visuals drove the feeling). Also other MMORPGs have had larger more intimidating summon/pet classes and seemed to also be appreciated, without destroying computers, raids, social order, and world peace. WoW/Aion as off hand examples (variance, size, complexity). But to be clear I don't want or think 'full scale' primal would be best, just not what I'd describe as magical beanie baby moogles - if a moogle was drowned in elemental aether it'd make an egi we have now lol.

Yoshida can have his own reason and stick with it (he's definitely the boss lol), won't stop me saying that it is merely an opinion that many do not share*- disagreement to the feeling it actually cheapens the primal by having something that looks more akin. Even if it wasn't the primal but some other complete aspect of the primal that took more of a Zodiac/ark FFXII art style I'd greatly appreciate it over the current floaty baby crystal food (potato, red jalapeno, booger). Although I think the Jalapeno looks ok.

*Should be obvious but by saying this I don't revoke your ability to agree with Yoshida or claim to, lol.

[Aryalandi]

Thing is.. I can agree entirely with the view that primals would seem less powerful if everyone was running around with them, and that is excluding how bad of an idea it would be to have imposing looking primal egi fallowing you around because if they are too close to being who they represent it means that they could start taking in aether and tempering people.

In XI there are so many summoners that it does kind of cheapen the avatars being there, my main character Zarumaru in XI is a summoner~ and summons all look amazing x.x until there are suddenly about 50 in the same place.. then they look amazing but not so special.

In almost every other final fantasy being a summoner was sonething that defined a charactet as being /very/ special, there were so few of them that it was never diluted. In XI and XIV there are as many summoners as there are players who want to play them in spite of the lore saying otherwise. And it is odd seeing so many people run around with god-pets. It is why Bahamut never became summonable in XI

They could make the egi models more defined and primal shaped, but this isn't any of the other final fantasy games, summoner in xiv is different. I like that they are planning to add primal summons (wondering what the story will be for that being ok to do) but having primals available to players all the time would make things awkward unless you ignore every other summoner around you.

[BlaiseArath]

Thing is.. I can agree entirely with the view that primals would seem less powerful if everyone was running around with them, and that is excluding how bad of an idea it would be to have imposing looking primal egi fallowing you around because if they are too close to being who they represent it means that they could start taking in aether and tempering people.

In XI there are so many summoners that it does kind of cheapen the avatars being there, my main character Zarumaru in XI is a summoner~ and summons all look amazing x.x until there are suddenly about 50 in the same place.. then they look amazing but not so special.

Eh, I can't get behind the special snowflake reasoning he gave us. Give me something that feels like a Summon and I'll be all right, regardless of if its cheapened in a group. Should i feel cheapened when I see everyone wearing AF armor? I thought it was super special and i some cases suppose to be one of a kind? Should i feel cheapened with so many Ninja's running around? They're suppose to be super scarce on this land and yet everyone seems to be an expert! Should I feel ripped off with all the BLM's using Flare? Hey, thats an ancient banished spell, Why is everyone using it?

Its not only bad logic, but its also surrounded by hypocrisy when you consider everything else in this game that is suppose to be special and yet everyone gets to dip their hands in it.

The real problem is Summoner does not even feel like a Summoner... I'm sorry to say but if they can't work around the lore of FFXIV regarding Primals and give us something that makes us feel like Summoner's and not a flunk-out knock off, they shouldn't have bothered introducing the job. in XI the Summons actually looked like and reminded me of Summons from a Final Fantasy series title, I could recognize all of them.. When it comes to XIV's "Egi's", they are not amazing alone or in a group. I'd rather have an "Amazing" summon alone and a "Kinda amazing" summon in a group than a "Interns first model project" solo and a "Why did these abominations make it past pre-alpha" in a group.

Hands down Diabolos was one of my favorites and never once did I feel like he was cheapened when others used him, and I always felt awesome having him close by, even if he wasn't the most powerful.

Maybe I can understand not having Mini-primals (Ifrit looks like the Roach monster from MIB anyway), but give us something, I mean at least make them look more like their primal forms, Ifrit doesn't even have legs for shits sake.

[Jamein]

Make the summoner feel like a pet class and not a DoT Class with some pixelated Japanese porn standing next to it for auto attacks and people would be happy.

[Antanias]

Watching the Heavensward benchmark trailer, I noticed that the Ifrit-Egi by the Summoner's side appeared both larger and retextured (even when running the dx9 version) compared to what we have now. My prediction is that the "FC summon" concept is abandoned and given to SMN as their lb animation (depending on the summoned egi).

[Dhex]

We all spank Ifrit Garuda and Titan Extreme so often now that I doubt a bigger Egi would cheapen them anymore than pony farming already has.