(Serious) White Mage and Scholar are equally balanced.

[Risvertasashi]

/toss purple scarves to the scholars.
/toss green scarves to the white mages.

Do I get one of each?

/adjustscarf

^.^

[Sebazy]

/toss purple scarves to scholars in alexander raid
/toss green scarves to the astrologian in alexander raid
*looks around for white mage but sees sign that reads "rerolled to Astrologian" where the white mage stood.*Only reason white mage even works is because there is room for the antiquated healer for another month and half.

Heres hoping you don't have to kill Bahamut first eh?

It would not be so bad if I have not done about 30 duty finder groups being paired with another scholar in every queue minus 2 white mages but please allow scholar duo's to sync better in the duty finder queues or change the system to never pair scholar together please.

Sounds to me like someone needs a whm along to carry him frankly.

[Cynfael]

Heres hoping you don't have to kill Bahamut first eh?



Sounds to me like someone needs a whm along to carry him frankly.

At this point I think Vlady is just whipping up ridiculous, unsubstantiated statements for the fun of seeing what other reactions he can get.

[Vlady]

Heres hoping you don't have to kill Bahamut first eh?



Sounds to me like someone needs a whm along to carry him frankly.

And what does that have to do the bad shape that the White Mage is in right now? Honestly you should be supporting me since I am advocating much needed buffs to your job and the only reason I can even surmise that you are against being buffed is because you enjoy being the underdog. If that is what you enjoy then more power to you but taking my comments personally and trying to provoke me back with personal insults will get you no where in this game.

White mages are in a bad spot right now and if Alexander raids follow the motif of 2 healers in raids then you will either see people trying to accomodate 3 healers per raid or the white mage will be benched if they do not receive some decent utility buffs to make them worthwhile.

[Cynfael]

White mages are in a bad spot right now and if Alexander raids follow the motif of 2 healers in raids then you will either see people trying to accomodate 3 healers per raid or the white mage will be benched if they do not receive some decent utility buffs to make them worthwhile.

Baseless statements like that one are what make it difficult to agree with you.

Why are WHMs supposedly in a bad spot right now? They still seem pretty necessary to me. Any content that you would solo heal could be done by either Job, and SCHs don't pull amazing DPS without a strong, reliable co-healer, so....

Also, we know virtually nothing about how AST will actually play or how it will synergize with existing Jobs. Maybe we can start making educated guesses later, but right now it's just wild-ass speculation.

[Sebazy]

White mages are in a bad spot right now

Why? Because you can't Autopilot heal Haukke Manor on WHM like you can on SCH?

White mage utility is absolutely fine, they bring an extra source of virus/e4e, proshell and of course that trusty old 18% stoneskin that is virtually required to survive tank buster hits on progression content. Scholars bring superior shielding options to the table (at the expense of raw HPS throughput), a more versatile panic button (at the expense of MP regeneration and DPS) and some respectable if somewhat overrated spell/skillspeed buffs (at the expense of their primary raw AE heal). Full fat virus isn't really a factor since immunity prevents it from being spammed anymore whilst the E4E cooldown again isn't really a deal breaker either and imo are certainly not a fair trade for the much improved range of Medica and particularly Medica II.

If you disagree, then put down some cold hard facts and figures by all means (Preferably after you've actually cleared and understood the content your referring too).

[Zaft]

White mages are in a bad spot right now and if Alexander raids follow the motif of 2 healers in raids then you will either see people trying to accomodate 3 healers per raid or the white mage will be benched if they do not receive some decent utility buffs to make them worthwhile.

U wot? How in Hell do you think White Mage is in a bad spot? They have the strongest raid healing in the game, powerful single target heals and absorbs, mana-efficient heal over times and improved passive mitigation through Proshell. The only thing that White Mage lacks is a better "oh shit" button (which isn't currently needed considering all fights are 100% choreographed) and better DoTs to throw up during downtime to improve overall raid DPS.

[VanilleFang]

/toss purple scarves to scholars in alexander raid
/toss green scarves to the astrologian in alexander raid
*looks around for white mage but sees sign that reads "rerolled to Astrologian" where the white mage stood.*

I will not gloat nor nay say anyone if Alexander raid uses the current mold of two healers and the norm for alexander raid is scholar/astrologian. Only reason white mage even works is because there is room for the antiquated healer for another month and half.

You seem so sure that AST is going to oush WHM away.

You must know something everyone else doesn't about Heavensward. Please fill us in on all the changes coming for the healers and exactly how AST is going to function, please.

[DreamWeaver]

At this point I'm fairly certain Vlady is just trolling and is not worth to even debate/argue with anymore.
I don't believe there's somebody so bloody bone headed that even when the entire world is shouting "The sky is blue!!!" at him, he's still ignorantly convinced its some other weird color.

Or maybe I'm just overestimating human intelligence.

[Tint]

You seem so sure that AST is going to oush WHM away.

i would say the chance that the ast oush away the sch is much bigger than he will replace the whm. the whm has the (heal)power. we don't need two healers with buffs and stuff. whm has strong singletarget heal, aoe heal, HoTs and even a nice shield. so perfect for the job as a HEALER.

but for real: whm and sch are really perfect balanced. and so will the ast. and if one healer is better than another, they will nerf him or buff the others. like they nerfed the potency of medica 2 but doubled the lenght of the HoT, nerfed the potency of Holy, removed the thunder DoT crosskill from blm, removed the critbuff from cure 3, buffed presence of mind and stoneskin (they removed the delay between the cast and actual getting the buff)... hm, whm got more nerfs than buffs, strange...

btw the whm can sleep, weight, has a pushback attack, can bind the enemy and is the only class in the game with an aoe stun (on the global cooldwon so stunlock and yes - you can stun certain attacks from enemys (if you are good xD)). 15% mdef buff all the time up. whm can more than just healing.