People like this is why i wont tank ever again

[Ultimatecalibur]

Most tanks wait forever because the alternative is to be smeared for 10 minutes by a dd or healer who 'lagged' and couldn't make it into the room in the 20 seconds you waited.

You really can't win as a tank for the most part.

It really is a devil's choice.

[Hobbs]

As a PLD tank, when doing roulette, I never know what kind of group I am going to get. Just because people have good gear does not mean they are paying attention or playing at 100% (I am guilty of this when healing on autopilot while drunk cus im overgeared). As a result of this, I DONT PULL EXTRA GROUPS off the bat...i see how the healer does, and how fast the dps take stuff down, is the dps single target or group? (ST dps takes out small groups in succession faster than a massive group) I love it when a healer says: "You can grab more if you want" or DPS says: "I'm AOE, can we pull more?" BUT I cannot stand, DPS or Healers deciding that things are not fast enough, and pulling for me. It is rude and makes my job harder. I often hear the excuse "what's the big deal, you can pull it off me." sure, I can, but now I don't want to cus your a dick... I will usually allow that to happen once. Second Time, I will say, please let me pull. Third time, I let you take it...

[Xenosan]

Weaboo is just another term for otaku but usually aimed towards Americans/Westerners anime fans, someone who likes Japanese stuff to the point of nausea..

Just for sake of clarity I'd want to add: Otaku and weaboo are not the same. Weaboo is a derogatory term. It's considered fandom that's motivation is based on social inclusion/identification and not genuine interest in the material.

On topic: Gamefaqs message boards.. stay away

[monochromicorn]

Lol, can't believe we made an insult for that.

Still, on tha fact of tanking, I mained pld, zeta and all until a couple weeks ago, now I'm war. Still, in all my months tanking, I never pulled big groups, simply because I didn't know how to handle them. I was doing zodiac drop dungeons and almost felt ashamed because a pld with lesser fear in every way pulled every mob possible together, and I couldn't handle more than one group. So I watched him. And I learned how to do it. Nobody ever really complained that I was so slow. I was asked to go faster, replied by telling them I couldn't handle it. Honestly, there are some bad eggs, but the majority of players are not like that, surprisingly.

Would suggest going as a dps in a dungeon and watch how they handle the big pulls, then try a few things out yourself.

[Brightsayge]

dungeons, I just pull big until we wipe, then I pull smaller, and in ct/st/wod I just go sword oath and if a tank in defiance or shield oath cant hold agro then I MT.

ppl will complain about anything and everything, just do what you want to do, you are the tank. normally if someone is pissy you can just vote kick them(im sure that makes their day lol) and get a fc/ls mate to jump in progress.

[Rhaja]

I've simply gotten to the point where if somehow that happens I let the DPS die and move on. If you're able to take hate from me you get my comm, if you somehow got ahead of me and pull an add I assume you want to test your defensive abilities and respect that decision.

[Teirafon]

I hate when dps rush me too, they run ahead and pull mobs. I just stand there and watch them, saying they can tank and ill dps lol.
But that doesnt stop me from tanking. If people dont like the way you tank, then tell them to kiss it and do what makes you comfortable. Or, you could always leave,
and they would have to wait a while for another tank :P

[karateorangutang]

I pull no more than 2-3 groups on the first pull generally unless I'm with DPS i play with and trust. You prove to me you can handle it then i'll pull bigger.

If your gonna run ahead and pull groups for no other reason than your impatience then im gonna let you die.

If im in 24 man raids then I simply wait for everyone to cross the line. If there is someone lagging far behind then that is their problem. I'm not gonna be the guy that holds up 22 other people because Tiny Tim the wonder DPS went afk and didnt move with the group.

[Dement]

If im in 24 man raids then I simply wait for everyone to cross the line. If there is someone lagging far behind then that is their problem. I'm not gonna be the guy that holds up 22 other people because Tiny Tim the wonder DPS went afk and didnt move with the group.

I don't know why more tanks don't understand this. When we get to a boss, I bring up my map and watch people file in. If everyone crosses, I'm going. If you're more than 30 seconds behind, I'm going. The Towers don't need all 24 people in each fight. If another tank has even stricter time frames and pulls before me, then I guess they're MT and Defiance is going off.

On the other hand, if a DPS gets antsy and pulls before me, then I guess they're MT and Defiance is going off until the laughter subsides.

[Peachy]

Ive been in that situation a few times and usually the nin and monk are too crappy to make it worth pulling everything possible, its just as fast to start moving when things are closer to dead. If I see they have excellent gear I have slightly more hope, but I dont expect dps to bring their "A game" to every ex roulette, sad truth.