It was definitely a lot more fun when they temporarily lifted the Ilevel sync. Those SR's were glorious.

It was definitely a lot more fun when they temporarily lifted the Ilevel sync. Those SR's were glorious.
Been having luck so far yesterday during first 3 quests. Then this "method of his malice" is so fked up. Been doing this all day 0 drop, copperbell mines HM ....
I know the chance is like 11% ish, but the fact RNG is still RNG
it is possible 100000000000 run with 0 drop, on extremely-extremely^100 unfortunate people
it is RNG. so mind boggling.

SE definitely needs to move away from the whole RNG shenanigans. 1 in 10 odds is still a 1 in 10 chance of success with a 9 in 10 chance of failure.
That said, Light farming was tedious, but it was still progress that could be measured in a meaningful manner. The Anima tomes, also tedious, definitely could be measured in the same manner.
But this whole farming Dungeons until you get your item to drop while dealing with packs of scrub-idiots who can't be bothered to pay attention to dungeon mechanics? Please, I'd rather get kicked repeatedly in the genitals by someone wearing steel-toed boots instead of enduring another 20+ runs of Snowcloak, Dzemael Darkhold, or Amdapor Keep.
There's no metric to measure progress using this RNG drop system. If SE claims that there's a force-drop check-sum value, then at the very least change it from "run it 'til it magically drops" to "run it X times and assemble the X number of pieces you have acquired-- that has been all guaranteed 100% drop rate-- and fuse them all into the actual item itself."
Having the same issues, I have run DD, AK and Pharos at least 20+ times and have still yet to see drops. In 2 weeks I have only been able to get 5 of the items needed for all 4 quests.

Like some others I too am hating certain dungeons I once liked because of constant grinding for days and days with no drops.
I have 3 more to complete and for the past 2 weeks of grinding I haven't seen a single drop... When I started I've had a few that dropped on the 1st try. Others within a dozen runs or so. but these last 3, Sasashta hard, Lost City, and Temple of Quarn hard have just stopped. I've run them so much at nausea that I never EVER want to run them again for any reason whatsoever. That's a shame because those 3 are one of the finest designed dungeons I've played in the past. Very well detailed. Unfortunately I never want to see them again and I feel so discouraged that I don't even want to finish this Zodiac thing...
I thought i was doing something wrong or missed a step but apparently lot of you are having my same problem. I have been ruining dungeons for 5 hrs straight for a week and not 1 drop -_- ... There is no order to them right?

I have
10 Zodiums
10 Zodiac Scrolls
10 Books of Skylight
5 Flawless Alexandrites
Almost have everything for all 10 Relics but I'm behind on Animus and Novus grinds x; Gotta catch up!
The developer that thought this was a good idea should have to farm the zodiac items in order to get their paycheck.

this is crap man i did coppermine almost 10 times still no drop..wtf with this man , forcing people to grind same dungeon so many times is not a fun at all why dont just let people get the weapon easier since there is so many class...i really feel disappointed on their decision to make such stupid way to get relic, i rather it say do 10 times each dungeon than fking 9% drop rate.. PLease dont come out with such stupid thing in the future.

My worst drops on my first Zodiac progression were:this is crap man i did coppermine almost 10 times still no drop..wtf with this man , forcing people to grind same dungeon so many times is not a fun at all why dont just let people get the weapon easier since there is so many class...i really feel disappointed on their decision to make such stupid way to get relic, i rather it say do 10 times each dungeon than fking 9% drop rate.. PLease dont come out with such stupid thing in the future.
Copperbell Mines (HM) - 1/27
Hullbreaker Isle - 1/26
All the others were 12 runs or less. I never had a 1/1 situation.
I'm now on Sunken Temple of Quarn (HM) and currently 0/5.
The bonus point on theses runs was meeting some great people along the way. I won't argue about that.\
I noticed a lot of first timers hitting Hullbreaker Isle, thanks for those soldiery bonuses! /thumpsup!
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