Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
I've been trying to avoid jumping onto here for a bit just to see how this pans out...
At least when you respond, you actually make a clear point. However the overtly negative conversations that happen on this forum, are always between the same two people, and it seems that nobody actually reads the post with the intent finding common ground, but rather try to frame the other person as talking out of their butt. I will not shut up about something just because they want me to.

Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
My beef with your mindset is you're giving advice to encourage healers to play "completely average". The DPS advice is for a higher level play and will help elevate the healer to the next tier of skill once they can master the art of stance dancing. With that being said, what will then elevate that healer even further is knowing WHEN to stance dance. There will be instances a healer can go ham on DPS and there will be instances where a healer can only really heal and dig their party out of the huge hole. The best healers will have the ability to gauge their party and respond appropriately.
I'm suggesting that players don't go into the dungeons with the mindset that just because a skill is available that they must be using it whenever possible. The Minmaxing player is always a poor player when partnered with less experienced players since such players aren't happy unless everyone is minmaxing like they are. It's not the healers job to make up for weakness in the DPS players, and it's not the DPS players job to make up for weakness in the healer. There's things like Enmity to consider before using healing magic, or you end up tanking.

There same 5 or so people keep talking past each other on this forum. Go look at other forums and you will see similar statements from Tanks about letting the Healer or DPS tank if they step out of their role too. Comparing low level to Coil and CT like they are equivalent is just faulty logic to begin with, comparing newbies with munchkins.