Mount/Minion Loot System Flaw

[white_mage]

Didn't they talk about a system that allows you to trade an item once that dropped in an instance after obtaining it in one of the live letters? I could be wrong and in the end that will do nothing if someone decides to be a brick.

As it currently stands, this system does not exist. The GM I spoke to also said that it is not possible at this time to do an item transfer, as their policies are very strict. They can only 'restore' an item to a player's inventory if it was at one point in there. Essentially, if my FC companion had rolled the item, won it, and then accidentally discarded it, then it could be restored. However in this scenario, I don't see why SE cannot remedy the situation, as intentional 'ninja' looting is taken extremely seriously in this game as verbal contract.

And that's the only fix to it to distribute stuff fair x.x

How is this the only 'fair' way to distribute loot of this nature? Systematically, a player should not be able to roll these pre-requisite items once they have them because they are unique and on-time use. Let me be clear. They can keep the same loot distribution system, just do not allow players who have CLAIMED the pre-requisite item in the character's lifetime, to roll it again.

[Magistrella]

How is this the only 'fair' way to distribute loot of this nature? Systematically, a player should not be able to roll these pre-requisite items once they have them because they are unique and on-time use.

I was referring to the last part of what i quoted - as you said: the only way to fix it is to prevent people from rolling on an item at all after they obtained the pet/mount aquired with it ^^


And yes i know that system doesnt exist (yet), and i figured if it was anything like in XI you'd have no chance to get it transferred to someone else :/

On a sidenote: If you ever need to use the item restoration, make sure you make it count. The first item you'll get back without much trouble, if you should ever need a second make sure you document precisely.

[white_mage]

I was referring to the last part of what i quoted - as you said: the only way to fix it is to prevent people from rolling on an item at all after they obtained the pet/mount aquired with it ^^

Ah apologies, I thought you were referring to the current system.

[Its_Elodie]

Yeah, my heart almost stopped today when I queued up for Garuda ex. I just need nightmare and one dropped. I rolled a 93, thought I had it, someone else rolls a 97 of course, then leaves. We pf again, same player comes back and says oh I needed xanthos and I'm like omg so you didn't need nightmare? But, they said they did, but also needed the Garuda pony. That run, rolls on xanthos, wins that and leaves. Wish I had that luck >.< please make these unrollable/needable for people who already have them. While the drop rates may have increased, the parties capable of farming them and the chances of rolling highest among 7 others (cuz these are the only people who are willing to run this content when people already have their pony) has not. It's too much of a waste leaving this open for harassment or needing by mistake by accident.

[white_mage]

Yeah, my heart almost stopped today when I queued up for Garuda ex. I just need nightmare and one dropped. I rolled a 93, thought I had it, someone else rolls a 97 of course, then leaves. We pf again, same player comes back and says oh I needed xanthos and I'm like omg so you didn't need nightmare? But, they said they did, but also needed the Garuda pony. That run, rolls on xanthos, wins that and leaves. Wish I had that luck >.< please make these unrollable/needable. While the drop rates may have increased, the parties capable of farming them and the chances of rolling highest among 7 others (cuz these are the only people who are willing to run this content when people already have their pony) has not. It's too much of a waste leaving this open for harassment or needing by mistake by accident.

No one essentially 'needs' any of these drops. In this case, these are two different mounts. Unless the player had already obtained them beforehand, they were completely within their rights to roll on both of them. This is how it is designed and I believe its working completely as intended, its just the nature of grinding for a rare item in a game where everybody wants one.

I didn't intend for this post to become a thread for people discussing how 'lucky' or 'unlucky' people are on the matter. While I am sorry for your seeming 'unluckiness', I wanted to bring it to the attention of the team that the ability to roll a unique vanity item twice exists in the game.

[Its_Elodie]

No one essentially 'needs' any of these drops. In this case, these are two different mounts. Unless the player had already obtained them beforehand, they were completely within their rights to roll on both of them. This is how it is designed and I believe its working completely as intended, its just the nature of grinding for a rare item in a game where everybody wants one.

I didn't intend for this post to become a thread for people discussing how 'lucky' or 'unlucky' people are on the matter. While I am sorry for your seeming 'unluckiness', I wanted to bring it to the attention of the team that the ability to roll a unique vanity item twice exists in the game.

I Just wanted to take a moment to thank you for your courteousness in proof reading my previous rushed post on my iphone that I didn't have time to proof read because my church service started. I edited it I'm going to ignore the callous attitude and say again that I agree with your post. SE, please implement a system where if you already have one of the specific primal mounts that you can't roll need/greed again so people who don't that specific mount already have a chance at obtaining the mount. People who already have the mount can use this as a form of harassment towards other players who don't by needing on it purposely, or accidentally as well.

You have a nice day now, OP.

I just love our community in game and on this forum, so much love.

[white_mage]

I Just wanted to take a moment to thank you for your courteousness in proof reading my previous rushed post on my iphone that I didn't have time to proof read because my church service started. I edited it I'm going to ignore the callous attitude and say again that I agree with your post. SE, please implement a system where if you already have one of the specific primal mounts that you can't roll need/greed again so people who don't that specific mount already have a chance at obtaining the mount. People who already have the mount can use this as a form of harassment towards other players who don't by needing on it purposely, or accidentally as well.

Apologies, I didn't mean to come off this way. There are a plethora of threads on the Official Forums and other social forum networks that are filled with players complaining about how unlucky they are, and share their horror stories about how the RNG calculations have it out for them. I've been there, trust me. I just didn't want this semi-official report to turn into that, because it isn't the place for it. My particular example is unique in the sense that it draws reference to a small flaw in the way this vanity loot is distributed, and doesn't have anything to do with the way the RNG is operating. Thanks again for the response and gl on the rest of your runs!