Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
Given i130 gear is either locked in coil, requires something with a weekly cap, requires a VERY long quest, or all 3, getting above 120 at the LEAST takes time. It requires you to experience enough of the content to get a basic grasp of your class.
Please tell this to the DRG I encountered in a Duty Finder T5 that a friend and I entered for fun last night, who had full Poetic set and upgraded i130 weapon, but did less DPS than my PLD in sword oath because it spammed the 1-2-3 combo 100% of the time, hit no positionals, and had heavy delays in their combo as if they macro'ed the 1-2-3 combo.... dead serious....

Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
It is indeed an average. Weapons get double weight if they are 2 handed (clearly..., which is btw mostly everything except PLD). You always divide by 13. Therefore the OP is incorrect; weapons already have higher weight in the average.
Yeah, they have a higher weight but I don't think it's high enough. I recently got the dread spear for my DRG. My DRG has very haphazardly put together gear set because I didn't really buy many pieces for it. It's like my 5th choice when selecting a class so it didn't have much priority. It still has the FCoB body piece (i90).

But it had the SCoB spear (115). My avg ilvl was 113. Right when I equipped the spear it jumped to i117. I believe I only have an upgraded poetic ring on him as any other i130, so I don't think that one upgrade would have made a 4 ilvl jump, even counting as double for a 2 handed weapon, if it had equal weighting. You don't normally see 2 110 -> 130 upgrades produce consecutive 2ilvl jumps until closer to end of the gearing cycle, especially considering my body piece is still i90.

I think the point the OP is trying to make, and rightly so, is that my damage ceiling actually skyrocketed by making that weapon upgrade. Much more so than 4 item levels would lead the normal player to believe. Which the "normal" player (who just plays for fun, doesn't care about examining team members etc etc.) is who I believe he is tailoring this argument towards.