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    Maybe he's smaller because he's missing an eye, and through that a large amount of his power. And size doesn't necessarily equal power. I mean, we're tiny and we still kill Ifrit and Titan.
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    If both dragons are missing an eye, of which each dragon is missing the opposite eye of the other. I see this being as a Yin and Yang concept. Toss in their colors and we see the opposites White and Black which go along with the Yin and Yang concept. If you look at the concept art you'll notice the White Dragon has a Protect like spell around it. The benchmark Dragon is surrounded by minions. I think at this point there's 2 possible outcomes:
    • Both dragons are actually Nidhogg and one dragon represents the Eye and the other dragon represents the other Eye which is seething which rage. Though this wouldn't explain why Estinein succumbs to it.
    • They're completely different dragons (most obvious outcome) but represent the Yin and Yang.
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    Something to think about...

    Iceheart "laid with dragons" something along those lines, could the big white one possibly be "the one" she "laid" with, and mayhaps that is why it is missing its eye? Could it be that the dragons themselves saw that as something universally bad, love between a person and a dragon, and took his eye from him, obviously stripping some power from it? Would explain why Iceheart is there imo.
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    If the white dragon isn't nidhog I'll be a little disappointed, Thought it would be cool if he looked more benevolent and majestic than 'evil' looking.
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    They've already announced the white dragon's name on some of their Twitter feeds. His name is Hraesvelgr ("Corpse Eater" in Norse).
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    Quote Originally Posted by WyrahFhurrst View Post
    They've already announced the white dragon's name on some of their Twitter feeds. His name is Hraesvelgr ("Corpse Eater" in Norse).
    Then so on 3.0 we will meet more than just 1 so of midgarsomir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyghtmarerobu View Post
    Something to think about...

    Iceheart "laid with dragons" something along those lines, could the big white one possibly be "the one" she "laid" with, and mayhaps that is why it is missing its eye? Could it be that the dragons themselves saw that as something universally bad, love between a person and a dragon, and took his eye from him, obviously stripping some power from it? Would explain why Iceheart is there imo.
    No Iceheart is not the one who "laid with a dragon." That honor belongs to Saint Shiva, the original heretic 1000 years ago. Iceheart was just a vessel to bring the Primal Shiva into our world once again, and used her power. Plus she's a fellow Echo user it seems, just like we are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyghtmarerobu View Post
    Something to think about...

    Iceheart "laid with dragons" something along those lines, could the big white one possibly be "the one" she "laid" with, and mayhaps that is why it is missing its eye? Could it be that the dragons themselves saw that as something universally bad, love between a person and a dragon, and took his eye from him, obviously stripping some power from it? Would explain why Iceheart is there imo.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yamimarik View Post
    No Iceheart is not the one who "laid with a dragon." That honor belongs to Saint Shiva, the original heretic 1000 years ago. Iceheart was just a vessel to bring the Primal Shiva into our world once again, and used her power. Plus she's a fellow Echo user it seems, just like we are.
    Not this again. Shiva didn't sleep with a dragon she allied with them. That is the original context in old english (Which most NA Dub speech in ff14 is based on). To "lay with <Insert here>" is to ally yourself with them. If it meant she SLEPT with Dragons it would have said she F***ed a dragon. This ain't Elder Scrolls people.
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    To be fair the way some of the Heritics behave they might totally be behind that interpretation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    Not this again. Shiva didn't sleep with a dragon she allied with them. That is the original context in old english (Which most NA Dub speech in ff14 is based on). To "lay with <Insert here>" is to ally yourself with them. If it meant she SLEPT with Dragons it would have said she F***ed a dragon. This ain't Elder Scrolls people.
    Calm down, I never said Shiva slept with anyone, which is why I put quotations around it, quite frankly the way it's mentioned in game is quite ambiguous. So please don't put words in my mouth XD I was simply just stating the way it had been stated inside the game.

    I was correcting the person I quoted b/c it was not Iceheart, but Shiva that "allied"(better?) herself with dragons...
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