Why I Decided to Become an Elitist

[KaijinRhada]

I don't watch guides so I can learn how to play myself and become better though my failures. I find people that study a video to learn are fake.

Agree with Juniglee. Videos are tools to help, but they don't replace actual hands-on learning. They will give you an idea, but the nuances will have to be figured out with experience and watching a video will give you a modicum of what to expect on top of seeing things first hand.

Perfect example from WoW, Heroic Putricide videos show you what happens in a given encounter, but it's not going to teach you the timing you need to react to specific mechanics; the timing is something you need to work out yourself, but you'll at least know what the phase changes will throw at you

[Callinon]

Yeah, didn't you know bodybuilders who exercise regularly are also fake?
Don't even get me started on GPS Navigation..

No, in this case it would mean that bodybuilders who do research to learn how to exercise effectively before they start are fake. REAL bodybuilders you see... they learn by doing it wrong and getting injured a bunch of times. Obviously.

GPS navigation? You want to get to where you're going quickly and efficiently? REAL travelers just set out in a direction and if they don't get to where they wanted to go, well that's just them learning.

[Starlord]

That's fine and dandy, just don't make 7 other people suffer for your failures because you're unwilling to compromise.

That is what the Party Finder is for. to get 8 people that will meet your demands so you can clear X content with ease. Duty Finder is a randomized thing, you can't honestly expect everyone to know what they are doing, and you can also expect them to take out the experience part of it and watch the youtube video of the fight. If I got into a Party finder group I have to abide by the set rules they give.

If I am in a Duty Finder group, there is very little rules applied here. If I don't like the party I either simply leave or stick it out. I will not however, tell someone in the DF what to do. I may suggest that he should do this or that, but I won't force them to watch something just because "7 other people know what they are doing". I never watched a guide once and I defeated all the Primals/ST/CT/HM dungeons all without it, yes death occurred a few times but that's the fun in it, watch a guide and 50% of the fun is gone ( the surprise element etc.)

[AlexionSkylark]

I still find the pace in FF14 lot slower then WOW and gives way too much time to react, but this is coming from someone who has had a few WOL rankings during current content on my warlock, the GCD here is still annoying.

Funny thing, I was a warlock too. Heh.

Like I said, the only case you might have is the GCD. I say if makes you think differently. What you say is time to recover, I say it's a window where stuff might happen that you cannot act against. But to each it's own, I suppose. Most people who come from WoW are annoyed by the GCD here. They just got so used to it that they find it difficult to assume another mindset. What you call slower pace I call less action-y and more strategic-y. Every button pressed means 2.5s where you won't be able to do anything else, so you need to plan your "turns" meticulously. It's like a perfect blend of action based and turn based.

[Violette]

I am called an elitist by people I kick from my parties in game, but I have my reasonings.

If I make a farm party, with "must be exp'd and cleared", I don't expect you to trigger a blackfire.
I don't expect you to drop a meteor on another meteor.
I don't expect you to stand still during twister.

I expect you to know these mechanics inside out and work around them.
If you screw up a few times, you're gone. I don't have the patience to baby people through fights everyone else is playing perfectly repeatedly.

But if I join a roulette or a friend asks me to help out, I'm mellow as fuck because I've tempered my expectations to the group.


Elitism is joining a farm party then leaving because "hurr durr my raid group strat is best ur shit goodbye".
That happens a lot, because people are elitists but they're not good.
Good players have the flexibility to adapt, elitists are stuck in their ways. Must do x this way, must always do y, must have z super high ilvl.

[Magusrex]

Considering the wording of online guides, they really don't help most of the time. People write guides and make video guides in what I call, "raider terms," meaning they are not understandable to someone new to that particular MMORPG. I've seen this quite consistently in every MMO I've played and find it annoying, not to mention really ignorant to assume that your reader or viewer knows all the terms and abbreviations used in a particular guide. If you have to ask several times what the hell someone is talking about in their guide, than it's a bad guide. Guides should be understandable to all, otherwise I don't see how they can even be considered "guides."
Your assumption that everyone that doesn't understand online guides or videos are liars, is what people are talking about when they act disgusted at elitism. It's that, "I can do it this way, so everyone should be able to do it my way obviously, and if not they are liars," attitude that bugs a lot of people, including me.

I used to play RIFT and end-game was such a pain because all the online guides I found for class builds were chalk-full of words I had no understanding of. Luckily a kind player in my guild showed me in-game how skill-rotations worked, what not to do, and what to do, and guess what? I understood my class and was finally able to start end-game dungeons without a hitch. Imagine that! Players being social and helpful instead of telling one another to "Google it."

I don't care if it bugs you. I think you are lazy and selfish. You want someone to type out to you what everything means, instead of googling the abbreviation and reading what it means. Please link one video for any of the raids or dungeons FOR THIS GAME that include language or abbreviations you do not understand....You're correct, I think you are not being truthful. The videos usually tell you exactly what the name of thing the boss will cast, show you what it looks like and tells you where to move. How can that not possibly help some? even if you do not understand a word or two? Please ...it is you you who is the elitist, you expect to be carried and don't give a poop how you might be hurting the experience of others...selfish

[Magusrex]

FWIW...I don't care if you watch guides or not...unless you are a slow learner/latency issues ect..You know if you wipe groups a lot. Those people should overgear and study some, it will help them.

[KaenShinzui]

As much as I dislike elitists, I am totally one of those jerks sometimes. For some carriable fights, I don't fucking care if I have to carry people. But for those fights that require people putting their effort in to win, my patience only go as far as explaining the fight twice. If the person tries to progress, okay let's do this, we get there eventually. If the person ignores my advice and keeps on sucking... FU if you're not out, I take the penalty and go mine some shards instead

What I hate the most are those that come in, not knowing anything, not saying anything, not even reading chat... If you're bad, say it, we help you. If you don't know English, say it, we find a way to communicate and get this thing done. If you don't want to communicate with people then gtfo and find an offline game to play by yourself.

[Ixsiehn]

There are a growing number of players who refuse to play with anyone who isn't on their level. These are the ones who have party flags which ridiculously high ilvl requirements (despite the content requiring much lower) and list comments like "screw up, get kicked", This is immediately apparent to anyone who opens up the Party Search box trying to find a group.

These "elitists" are probably jaded by new players invading their "experienced group only". It is very frustrating to form a greed farm party for new guys to keep popping in and expecting to get carried and wiping the group repeatedly. I come home from work and have very limited time to play the game, I come in expecting a few clears for a chance at loot, not babysit a few people who cannot run the content alone.

Sometimes you need to respect the time of these "elitists" we are still people who have other things to do with our lives and just want to get things done fast and move on.

[Orlandeu]

I decided to become an elitist because I am the best.