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    Rendecrow's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    For LoL that might work, but in the original example you used do you think they learned a lesson about being a jerk, or about sharing parse information with strangers? Cause if anything, you might've just made it worse. You can still easily trash talk without parse info, but if someone asks for their dps, they might think that person is trying to trick them like you did.
    I dont really see the issue with it. Just because it is "against the rules" does not mean that it should be. Obviously serious things like boting and rmt should be reported everytime. but parsing? Why? Why should sharing dps numbers be a bannable offense?
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rendecrow View Post
    I dont really see the issue with it. Just because it is "against the rules" does not mean that it should be. Obviously serious things like boting and rmt should be reported everytime. but parsing? Why? Why should sharing dps numbers be a bannable offense?
    I am not really offering an opinion, but just stating where the facts lie. It isn't necessarily because of the parser, it is that you are using a 3rd party program to harass another player, which is technically breaking two rules there. Yoshi-P has said a lot of times that it is technically against the ToS made by SE's legal team, not him necessarily making the rule, but is not going to go after people using 3rd party programs unless it is greatly affecting the game and other people. He understands the use for them, but for legal reasons, the team has to take action when you are caught using it in public.

    There really should be -something-, even if just for yourself to see how your damage is and compare it for your own self improvement. How much would it help? Not that much. It would be a step in the right direction however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    There really should be -something-, even if just for yourself to see how your damage is and compare it for your own self improvement..
    Addons like what WoW has would be amazing for the game. DPS meters while sometimes "annoying" when people excessively link them really do help people improve on dps and hps.

    Trying to improve your own performance? Take a look at what others in the group are doing and adjust what you do until your numbers are good.

    This all being said, I have played WoW for years and I will acknowledge that there are some very real negatives that come from performance meters. Namely people harassing others over bad performance or not understanding how to read the meters properly. That being said, if you are in a group that is wiping at 10% on a boss everytime, properly using meters make it very easy to identify the issues and fix the group.

    I think the good of meters outweighs the bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rendecrow View Post
    Why should sharing dps numbers be a bannable offense?
    If you wanna stuff your epeen down some newbs throat, I'm going to stuff the ToS down yours. Fair, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intaki View Post
    If you wanna stuff your epeen down some newbs throat, I'm going to stuff the ToS down yours. Fair, no?
    No, not really fair lol. You're getting someone banned for addon use, even though the offense was harassment. You're manipulating the rules to your advantage. I'm not trying to defend people harassing-via-parse, but as I stated earlier you're being morally neutral at best. You may not be the bad guy, but you're definitely not the good guy either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante_V View Post
    On a side note the OP is now in another post talking about how he bought his Titan EX clear... Kind of really adds a new perspective to the post when reading it. Anyways you guys have a good day. Time to go home and play dem gamessss.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rendecrow View Post
    People lie on the internet!!!!! O.o lol
    Not exactly, just left out some details. Probably hoping to tease readers enough to look for the post in question. Well played.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intaki View Post
    If you wanna stuff your epeen down some newbs throat, I'm going to stuff the ToS down yours. Fair, no?
    ToS or no, it's still a double standard that tanks and heals get an inordinate amount of grief based on their performance, but dps get at worst a proverbial slap on the wrist because they don't know what the combo system iis.im fine never giving deeps grief if they never complain about tanks and heals playing slowly or inefficiently, loosing hate or occasionally letting people die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intaki View Post
    If you wanna stuff your epeen down some newbs throat, I'm going to stuff the ToS down yours. Fair, no?
    Wonder if you will still play the game when addons come out, hint DPS meters will be made and allowed through the system, Blizzard gave the exact same response to why they do not include an official meter yet dps meters exist through addons.

    I will take great joy in knowing that you will get berated for low DPS .
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    Wonder if you will still play the game when addons come out, hint DPS meters will be made and allowed through the system, Blizzard gave the exact same response to why they do not include an official meter yet dps meters exist through addons.
    Could they reasonably do this with PS3 and PS4 support, though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    Could they reasonably do this with PS3 and PS4 support, though?
    PS4 more likely, they can create a program that exists along side FF14 and have the addons uploaded through there, as long as the addons fufill the program parameters it shouldn't cause any problems for sony end of things, then again this game is bringing them in money.

    Similer thing is done through WOW addons, you could technically just install by putting the files into the folders or use Curse which is how I can see it working.
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