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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    You're intentionally going out of your way to make someone elses life worse.
    Or I'm making their life better by teaching them an important lesson about the value of discretion and politeness to strangers.

    I don't make internet elitists rage at some newbie in i90. I don't make them swing their epeens around and stroke their parser numbers openly. They walk over that cliff all by themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intaki View Post
    Or I'm making their life better by teaching them an important lesson about the value of discretion and politeness to strangers.
    Yes, because being a school yard tattle tale teaches discretion and manners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PandaPause View Post
    Yes, because being a school yard tattle tale teaches discretion and manners.
    It's also really fun when people get mad at you for it, then get even more mad because they know there's nothing they can do about it.

    Case in point: this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PandaPause View Post
    Yes, because being a school yard tattle tale teaches discretion and manners.
    With that logic, it's kind of pointless to report anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    With that logic, it's kind of pointless to report anything.

    I see your point but I feel there is a huge difference between reporting a bot/rmt and a player who uses a parser because ermurgurd math.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intaki View Post
    Or I'm making their life better by teaching them an important lesson about the value of discretion and politeness to strangers.
    You aren't and you know you aren't. You're doing it because being self-righteous feels good. It feels good to think you're standing up for the underdog or teaching a lesson to the big bad. But that's not what you're doing and at some level you know it. Because if you've ever been on the other side, if you've ever been the bad guy (and we all have in some situation or another) then you know you don't just "learn a lesson." If anything you just get pissed and take it out on someone. If anything you just make things worse. Wanna teach someone a lesson? Use your words. Tell them the lesson. Don't try to be some puppetmaster, don't try to subtly push them in the direction you think is right. That stuff might work in movies, but in real life it just makes things worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    You aren't and you know you aren't. You're doing it because being self-righteous feels good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intaki View Post
    Except it's not both, as I said. They don't learn the lesson, but you get some free dopamines from feeling morally superior. That's the only effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    Except it's not both, as I said. They don't learn the lesson, but you get some free dopamines from feeling morally superior. That's the only effect.
    I think you underestimate the effect that "You don't get to play this game for a while; keep it up and you never will again." has on a lot of toxic players. Look at League of Legends (which is one of the few games to publish this kind of data): the vast majority of people who get banned once never get banned again, and their rate of reports drops off after their ban ends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intaki View Post
    I think you underestimate the effect that "You don't get to play this game for a while; keep it up and you never will again." has on a lot of toxic players. Look at League of Legends (which is one of the few games to publish this kind of data): the vast majority of people who get banned once never get banned again, and their rate of reports drops off after their ban ends.
    I think you overestimate it tbh. I look at that same info and think to myself "these people got better at not getting caught"
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