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  1. #61
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    StouterTaru's Avatar
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    Stouter Taru
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    Exodus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    If you haven't tanked this yourself, I'd recommend you give it a try. Pulling adds to the front isn't as easy as folks seem to believe.
    It's easy to tank if everyone else knows what they are doing. Emphasize that nobody should ever be behind or underneath the dragon or in front of his feet, unless he is attacking a wall. Make sure the people on cannons know to stand far enough behind the cannons so the biasts miss them, and that they can ignore them. Make sure melee know not to stun the turtle unless he is doing the full area AoE.

    Don't chase mobs behind him. If someone pulls hate back there, they can tank it and die. Just stay in front of him between his feet. Easy tanking.
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  2. #62
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    Dante_V's Avatar
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    Dante Venarra
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    Jenova
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I've found that in DF groups having the dps deal with the bigger adds leads to a more reliable outcome. The times I've seen the adds ignored or left solely to the cannons it has been a circus. Not saying it can't be done that way I just think that way takes generally more skill and team comprehension than what you are typically going to find in a DF queue.
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  3. #63
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    Dalvy's Avatar
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    Character
    Ysera Dei-ijla
    World
    Goblin
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    Thaumaturge Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    Make it drop a rare minion or a pony. People will deliberately queue up to farm it. Problem solved.

    This. People will spam it for the chance to flaunt some vanity item, if given the chance.
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  4. #64
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    V'aleera Lhuil
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 79
    Leaving a dungeon should result in a 120 minute penalty.

    I mean, you decided you didn't feel like doing a dungeon after all, right? Well, problem solved!
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  5. #65
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    balte049's Avatar
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    Stralgarr Balte
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 24
    Took me 3 tries, but I finally did it yesterday.

    The 2nd try, we were resetting, and a tank and healer left right when it reset......They were fully aware of having to wait, and they did, right until it reset.....

    The 3rd try I finally got a group who actually wanted to do it, a tank disconnected, we reset, and lucky me I got a tank from my FC who knew what to do.
    We finally did it, with literally a couple seconds left or we would have failed.
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  6. #66
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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Lineage Razor
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gralna View Post
    Only real issue I have with bringing adds to front, is when people on cannons insist on "helping" by using sticky shot in middle of bridge, making it take that much longer to bring adds through it, or trying to go around the sticky in a wide enough arc, which usually puts one cannon out of range.
    Yeah, learning to use sticky shot the right way took me a while. On the occasions when I was on cannon duty, I just couldn't figure out the benefit - weighted enemies are harder to pull to the front of Vishap! Why would you use this??? It was never explained to me (and took me a while to figure out) that it's GREAT as a preventative for biasts beelining for the cannons. I haven't landed in SoF since figureing that out, but it's a piece of advice I'm certainly going to pass on to cannoneers when I do. Nowadays, I'm kind of embarrassed about the mid-bridge stickies that I used to land, but in my defense I stopped as soon as I saw how problematic they were...
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  7. #67
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    Zplinter's Avatar
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    Character
    Zearth Carnalla
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    I have a feeling, like it or not that this trail will be in fact be nerfed either right before heavensward launches or shortly there after. The amount of people at 50, have not completed (for whatever reason) that have bought the xpac will be on this forum demanding that their "basic human right" to play new content that is blocked by this one fight is "unfair."

    Sorry I am a pessimist.
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  8. #68
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    Zumi's Avatar
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Currently Steps of Faith with a 130 geared group can ignore the cannons and crossbow and just dps the dragon and kill him sometime before the he even gets to the 2nd crossbow. Now image if you had echo, this fight anyone at that point can probably ignore all the mechanics and dps the boss and win. They will for sure put echo in this fight sometime before HW or after it is out to make it so pretty much anyone can win their first try just like all the other trials.
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  9. #69
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    AsahinaMyLove's Avatar
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    Asahina Karayami
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Botanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    I think the biggest deterrent for repeat clears is the fight is on rails and doesn't reset until it's run its course even if it's a clear failure. "Missed a Dragonkiller shot for any reason? Whoops. Too bad for you. Now sit there and watch the fight slowly progress towards failure for another 10 minutes before you're allowed to try again."
    One of the reasons why I dislike this fight so much - I leave it right away after stupid DF put me in the. <-< There is no fast reset of the fight...
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  10. #70
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    Squires Ailith
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    Siren
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    It's not just SoF it's Chrysalis too. Every time i land that in trial roulette people disband as soon as it loads. Sadly, there will be people locked out of 3.0 because of this.
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