Fan Census: This is embarrassing

[Fenral]

All the people getting defensive though..have something to worry about that's not in game.

Was it necessary to get judgmental after you said yourself it doesn't actually matter?

That's why people get defensive.

[Battlewrench]

I don't care, though it's annoying to try to clear the content because of said "culture difference".

[Kiroh]

Hmm, Artificial inflation caused by all the RMT Gil injected into the economies of the NA servers that give them business?

1.) RMT are on all the servers, not just NA.

2.) I've played on JP servers, and a HQ level 10 weapon costs upwards of 20k. Inflation indeed...

[Jay_Raiderz]

Chocobo baby! That's my server and we're number 1!!!

[CelestiaYasuhiro]

I for one would like to raid, but the harsh treatment people do get when trying to learn keeps alot of people away from trying to raid.
I am a good learner and learn fairly fast, but with all the "1 fail = kick" people out there, how would anyone even manage to learn?

Replying to 4 day post, but it caught my attention
No one really wants to help each other out. I'm all for learning but when I can't make a party of new people like myself I have to use DF.
Asking for help has always been out of the question for me because 9 times out of 10 the generic response is "Go read/watch a guide"

DF should really have a new player option that you can tick or something so you get grouped with people who haven't completed the content, I think that will help heaps with players wanting the same experience and learning things for themselves. Watching a guide spoils the fun and yet people shun others for not watching a guide.

[Zephyr-Umbra]

Kind of surprised at how many excuses are in this thread. Ranging from "I can I just don't care to" all the way to "but the lag"

Why make excuses when no one has been blamed?

But I personally just think the answer to why we dont clear like jp was said a while ago. Its a cultural difference. Nothing to defend or be ashamed about. Differences make the world interesting.

All the people getting defensive though..have something to worry about that's not in game.

I disagree about it being cultural at least in terms of skill and difficulty, if statistics show anything, it's that western gamers like a challenge just as much if not more than Japanese gamers. The Souls series of games are a great example of this in recent years. However this isn't just a recent thing it's been the case since the days of the NES and SNES.

Being judgemental and telling people they're making excuses is exactly a form of the toxic behaviour that seems to prevail in this community, it's putting down others and telling them they're not good enough then calling them out for getting defensive when you call them out for this.

Why make excuses when no one has been blamed?

No one is making excuses, is it now an excuse to answer a question as to why people aren't clearing the content when that was inquired by the OP?
And why do you assume someone has to be blamed in this situation?

[LTEvil]

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Reread what I Said then reread the thread if you're going to surf through old topics.

Now weither or not one culture is more desiring of a challenge over another is irrelevant. I was referring to teamwork which you would know if you read the thread. And I'm not judging, I'm stating a fact. If you are uncomfortable that what you deemed acceptable reasons to fail I consider to be excuses then Idk what to tell you. I'm not calling anyone out.

Inb4 I know it seemed like he was trolling. I wasn't sure though So responded to clarify. Lol

[ShaneDawn]

Most of the reasons are excuses though. We would have 34 pages worth of Final Witnesses just in this thread alone if everyone could clear it.

Sure, some people have a valid reason, but no, most people are just getting defensive.

Instead of just looking at the data and reflecting it, people go 'pff I would clear it but <insert excuse X> here'.

[XxSliphxX]

It's the player base to be perfectly honest. I've played many mmo's over the years and I can easily say that the types of players that flock to Final Fantasy are EXTREMELY casual and or RP type players almost to the point of "this is my first mmo" type of noobishness. They don't have the motivation/skill/drive ect.. to finish content or be competitive in that way. I have friends that have "according to them" been playing this for years but when i ask them questions about the game i get proverbial blank stares when i ask about raids and what ilvl i should be shooting for and fight mechanics ect. I honestly think i now know more than they do in some regards and i just started.

Continue below......1000 character limit...

[XxSliphxX]

Continued.....

Coming from mmo's such as wow, aion, tera ,rift,heck even EQ1 and 2... the mentality is completely different here. It was almost a culture shock to me coming into this game and dealing with a playerbase that almost just doesn't seem to care about progression at all or how long it takes them to get there. Whereas before to me that was "and still is" what mmo's are all about. My motivations are completely different than most I want endgame and I want it yesterday. So as much as i love this game, having now played it for a couple of months it's very clear the player base of ff14 is insanely different from that of other mmo's. Why this is is another debate altogether but from my outside observation this is the core of the "problem" of why NA falls so far behind in progression.