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  1. #101
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    Kaoru_Nagisa's Avatar
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    Crowe Valtyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlaiseArath View Post
    boop
    Because representing myself well is definitely what I was going for.

    Perhaps it's the years and years of being told my worth as a person is measured by what men (usually heterosexual white men in positions of power) think of me. Perhaps it's the fact many women in the world are treated as just possessions or a pair of walking breasts made solely for the pleasure of men to ogle.

    Perhaps I'm just wanting men to feel uncomfortable by seeing half naked mancats all over the place. Actually no, it's definitely leaning towards that last one.

    Being serious for a moment, I'm fine with options. But keep the options out of something that's meant to be an iconic representation of Final Fantasy classes. You want skanky platekinis, then SE should add a craftable version of AF gear that's scantily-clad. Or make it a turn-in item like Augment. Whatever works better for them as far as how they want to implement something by way of anything that isn't the cash shop.

    But leave the iconic image and armor of a class the same for males and females. Not like it's impossible to make a full-covering plate armor sexy - just look at Livia.

    The gender disparity between male and female AF gear for some classes annoys me about as much as iconic class /cposes being changed between genders for literally no reason. I am salty as seawater about female DRG's battle /cpose. And I don't even have a female DRG.
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  2. #102
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    BlaiseArath's Avatar
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    Blaise Destin
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    feel uncomfortable by seeing half naked mancats all over the place
    There was a tank in my FC who did this. Also, this is already an option.

    Emperor's new clothes and Gladiator's set :3

    Perhaps it's the fact many women in the world are treated as just possessions or a pair of walking breasts made solely for the pleasure of men to ogle.
    Wut.

    The gender disparity between male and female AF gear for some classes annoys me about as much as iconic class /cposes being changed between genders for literally no reason. I am salty as seawater about female DRG's battle /cpose. And I don't even have a female DRG.
    I'd actually prefer the iconic Kain pose myself.
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    Last edited by BlaiseArath; 04-26-2015 at 04:57 AM.

  3. #103
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    Orspeth's Avatar
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    Orspeth Bleakwood
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa View Post
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    And especially don't speak for women. The "I know plenty of girls who wanna dress scantily clad" does not mean you know what every single woman in the world likes or dislikes. Plenty more women also dislike or feel uncomfortable showing skin. One main reason being men like you who think you can just oggle and whistle at females because "it's biologically hammered into us to find girls sexy". Please stop even trying to argue, you are really not making a case for yourself whatsoever.

    Literally I'm just so baffled right now by your level of offensive stupid that I can't even bother to answer your whole "weh weh aesthetics" thing. Never did I need a stiffer glass of vodka than I do now.
    <3 You understand why people need options. We all have our own comfort levels, and believe me, I was NOT comfortable in my Boob Coatee of Gathering phase, especially working in Coerthas - the guys all got to stay warm. Options for the new armor ( and all armor with obvious sex differences) are needed - glamours are just a bit too pricey to be a practical solution. Also, I would share my vodka with you if you were here, cheers!
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  4. #104
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    Cherie's Avatar
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    Cherry Fortuna
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanemano View Post
    I've created a monster! But turnabout is fair play I suppose. If girls are to be scantily clad;
    I wish this was real... lol

    Wouldn't it be hilarious if this was the male version this time around, and girls got the covered up armor for a change.

    I mean, think about it, a macho guy wouldn't need the armor right? Think of Hildibrandt's Dad, he fights honestly, in his bare skin! If you have so much skill, you don't need armor!

    Girls can be the ones in the badass armor this time around. Guys, you'd let us wear your coat if we got cold right? What kind chevalier are you? :x

    This patch, guys should be the white knights that we know they are and lend girls their protective armor. Girls have been chilly way too long. :P
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  5. #105
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    Suda Shirunai
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    Lancer Lv 90
    I like your take on the armor sets. While I already like the original sets I wouldn't mind both the comedy and the skimpy DRK gear.
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  6. #106
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    I think people are mistaking opinions for fact far too much here, and there's far too many people quick to judge anyone who's opinion doesn't mesh with their own. We've long departed from the original post too, which was one artists take on a 'sexy' armor, not some canonical appearance.

    You like sexy gear? Fine. I don't share your opinion, but I can respect it. You like more coverage? That's also fine.

    This post has deviated so far from the point that it's now setting up camp in another country. To the OP I say, lovely artistry. Do you have a site you post your artwork to usually?
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
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    This post has deviated so far from the point that it's now setting up camp in another country. To the OP I say, lovely artistry. Do you have a site you post your artwork to usually?
    Thankyou! Um, no not really, although I really probably should, considering I work professionally in the game industry. I just really like this game and the designs, so it really is fan art. Although I'd be remiss if I didn't recognize that with that comes some responsibility (hence the covered up female, and male version)

    I think debates like this are good though, as long as we keep civil with one another, otherwise it becomes pointless because no one wants to read pages of flaming tirades. SE is a pretty responsible company when it comes to designs and freedom of choice, and this post is just a good reminder of what to think about when designing for such a wide, global audience. But we have to remember, from any side, that social norms will be different from region to region, on both macro and micro social levels.
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    Last edited by Kanemano; 04-26-2015 at 06:30 AM.

  8. #108
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    Mugiawara's Avatar
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    Yoku Dekimashita
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanemano View Post
    I think debates like this are good though, as long as we keep civil with one another, otherwise it becomes pointless because no one wants to read pages of flaming tirades.
    LMAO! Do not hold ye breathe my friend! I've been around to see many of folks get sent to hell and back on these here forums.
    Once in a blue moon do you see a debate where people just cannot chew their faces or even apologize for blatant mistakes and keep going with their tunnel vision ways of life.
    This is hilarious now. Again, will never have nice things because people on NA forums have to become keyboard hero's.

    Perfect time for when I'd screenied someones post a while back:

    This just in this: Tumblr reinforcements have arrived!
    I mean Jeebin's Christ. Calm down people lol!
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  9. #109
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    Lyrre Myste
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    I wouldn't make a mountain over a molehill out of this. it's very doubtful that SE is going to make the DRK af gear unecessary revealing, how many tank sets are actually revealing in a ridiculous sense anyway? the post-50 gear, not glamours. (hint: less than 1)

    just harmless fanart.
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  10. #110
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    Ayuh'ra Bajhiri
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    Mateus
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    Dancer Lv 90
    From what I've seen the gear that is extremely revealing on female characters in this game is equally if not more revealing on men. So my point is.

    If the female DRK is going to be skimpy, the male one should be too.

    Fair is fair, yah?
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