Gender Swapped DRK and Gunner Fan Art

[Teslo]

I edited my post a little with the NIN AF armor from FFXI, and the DRG armor from XI. They're essentially unisex, So it does baffle me a bit why its so different in XIV. Maybe I just really liked XI's NIN af

Different art direction has a bit to do with it, I'm sure. I imagine that since XI was considerably older there were more limited resources over there. And yeah, the XI NIN AF was awesome. ^_^

[Jay_Raiderz]

O.o lol You can find some mods like that in Skyrim! Already got enough of those... I think the option for players that want that would be nice... As for me I'm the type of guy.. That love his women with clothes on soo I think the Current Dark knight set for females is kickazz!

[BlaiseArath]

Just because they're relatively decent on their track record of not going TERA and making any female armor show 90% more skin than male armor, doesn't mean they aren't still at fault for when they do decide to have a vast disparity in appearance between male and female.

Okay to take a step back here I don't think a small portion of cloth being removed from the neck area of NIN AF and an exposed belly qualify s "Vast disparity", despite how I feel on NIN AF being fugly... but I get what you mean.

But don't cut out random bits and pieces of AF gear just so females will have the "sexy" version.

Something I again, agree with. I think AF should be mostly unisex in terms of look because they are designed to look like the iconic jobs in the early FF titles, which... pretty much all of them are really. There should be differences in some pieces based entirely on how each gender is different, like... for instance, the OP's Machinist AF differences I don't think are pandering/fanservice, but practical in what you would see in the real world as difference between male and female casual attire.

Still, I think it'd be cool if every version had the option for a "Sexy" and "Practical" version, toggle-able like Headgear. Everyones happy then. Some people wanna be slu- Sexy.... let em.

[Thanotos]

I remember someone mentioning how the Dragoons are tried to fight, well, Dragons. No amount of armor is going to help against alot of there attacks and being mobile is their best bet (gameplay-wise of course its different.) Though it makes me wonder if they complain about the cold.

^this. It's a fantasy game, why in the hell people try to apply real world physics to it is beyond me. Even in the real world, being more agile is generally the better armor choice. Like the quote says, if a dragon really hit you, unless you are in a tank(even then your chances of survival are meek), you are f***ing dead.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

Something I again, agree with. I think AF should be mostly unisex in terms of look, which... pretty much all of them are. I think it'd be cool if every version had the option for a "Sexy" and "Practical" version, toggle-able like Headgear. Everyones happy then.

A skirt with fishnet tights, and a boob window on both the Ninja and Bard AF sets is not "unisex". Trust me, I'd love if it was - having one of my more feminine male cats in a tiny skirt would be wonderful. Tightening up the AF for females to accentuate the figure is fine, but just blatantly cutting out whole areas of the outfit for the sake of showing skin or cleavage is just ridiculous. Or in Ninja's case, completely changing what your pants look like.

Once SE starts treating AFs literally exactly unisex, with no disparities between the genders other than perhaps females having a bit more form-fitting gear, then I'll stop being annoyed with them. Until then, I'm going to be annoyed by the sexist artistic choices for some of the AFs all I please.

-suddenly fearful of how the female machinist AF will be treated-

EDIT: If they'd really want, could always give the option of scantily clad versions of the AF gear for both males and females as craftable items. Or items you need a crafted thing to turn in for, a la the Augmented gear. Would give the option as well as give something else for crafters to make bank off of.

[Teslo]

If SE really wants to have females show skin for the purposes of showing skin and leaving huge gaping "Stab me here!" holes in their gear, then do so for males as well. Least then we'd all be dying in equal amounts.

Men and women already die in equal amounts. Regardless of how revealing your armor is, it has the same stats for both genders.

[Canadane]

Risque DRK

I remember posting something a while back as a joke about this...

There is is. From last October. I'm surprised it took someone this long!

[BlaiseArath]

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I'd still continue to believe censoring or removing one type of armor (Scanty or Practical) is not the best option. Both have an equal valid reason to exist and appeal to different types of people. I don't mind differences like a Skirt or Shorts, those don't bother me at all because it seems pretty natural really. While I definitely am of the opinion that unisex AF is what I enjoy... or close to it, I personally do not mind the Fishnet legs on NIN AF in FFXI as opposed to Hakama, I don't think that It should be like that indefinitely or permanently with no option to the contrary... because I know some people like the sexy AF and they have as much a right to ask for that as I do to keep it identical.

I'd be lying if I said I didn't like the occasional scantily clad armor. I think some of my old glamours involved the Pirate-shirt which was really scantily.

[Teslo]

A skirt with fishnet tights, and a boob window on both the Ninja and Bard AF sets is not "unisex". Trust me, I'd love if it was - having one of my more feminine male cats in a tiny skirt would be wonderful. Tightening up the AF for females to accentuate the figure is fine, but just blatantly cutting out whole areas of the outfit for the sake of showing skin or cleavage is just ridiculous. Or in Ninja's case, completely changing what your pants look like.

Once SE starts treating AFs literally exactly unisex, with no disparities between the genders other than perhaps females having a bit more form-fitting gear, then I'll stop being annoyed with them. Until then, I'm going to be annoyed by the sexist artistic choices for some of the AFs all I please.

-suddenly fearful of how the female machinist AF will be treated-

EDIT: If they'd really want, could always give the option of scantily clad versions of the AF gear for both males and females as craftable items. Or items you need a crafted thing to turn in for, a la the Augmented gear. Would give the option as well as give something else for crafters to make bank off of.

You're awfully hateful, aren't you?

The simple fact is that a VAST majority of people find "Revealing" armor on women perfectly acceptable for many reasons. Men like women to be sexy. Known fact. It's biologically hammered into us on a genetic level. I make no excuses for what I am. Women also like to be sexy. You might not be comfortable with it, but I know plenty of female players who dress skimpy and scant because it makes THEM as PEOPLE feel better. Judge away but ask yourself, who's really being hurt by that?

That being said, it's not like these armors leave the breasts literally hanging out and wide swaths of skin exposed for no good reason. The areas that are revealed are done so for aesthetic purposes based on the differences between the genders. Again, DRG still boggles me a little. That's the only one in which the aesthetic has me confused... Some people don't like the NIN differences, but some people I know really do. Nothing wrong with that...

Remember, this is FANTASY. If we started having Angel Blade (Look it up if you're brave...) type armors I could understand this level of hate and anger coming from the playerbase. But as it is now? These issues are WAY out of proportion.

[BlaiseArath]

Hehehe, i remember Angel Blade

The "I know plenty of girls who wanna dress scantily clad" does not mean you know what every single woman in the world likes or dislikes

No offense man, seriously, sorry, but for someone who just spoke this sentence you seem to not get that people do in fact like different things and men and women are just different... and thats okay, and both have a right to exist... You may even sometimes say you the option for both would be fine but everything you ooze keeps saying "Its not what I want so its the devil".

If thats not what you're trying to say then you're not representing yourself well because I keep trying to read your posts from a neutral ground but it always seems like you're nearly passively holding back a deep hatred for white cis men and the patriarchy... despite the fact i do agree with some of your points. And no, its not sarcasm, I really am trying to read and understand things from your point of view.