Gender Swapped DRK and Gunner Fan Art

[SarcasmMisser]

I hate answers like this. I highly doubt anyone has a problem with having BOTH. But that's not going to happen, is it? Female DRGs don't get a choice of if they want a belly window or not in their AF, do they?

And that's the point to me, it's AF. It's symbolic of the class. Having a "sexy" version for females is just stupid.

Yes, sexy armour is great and I am all for having it available to glamour. However I do NOT think it has any place in the AF armour. I like OP's "demure" version, that's perfect.

Both would be amazing. But we are never going to get both, and you know it.

The OP expressed his vision which has something for everyone and that's all this thread is about, why are you suddenly discussing it like this is a serious petition for change?

Why do you hate answers like this? Instead of treating video games like they are, a vice for complete escapism, and entertaining the idea that there could be something for everyone do you feel compelled to instead treat it like a battleground between imagined issues? Do you think what we think matters at all? Us entertaining the idea of inclusiveness is no more unrealistic then the idea that tumblr outrage over an exposed stomach is going to change an artists vision at SE, but one fantasy gives you a delusional amount of hope that the barrow you are pushing will end up reality while you suspiciously dismiss the other as unrealistic.

[seida]

The OP expressed his vision which has something for everyone and that's all this thread is about, why are you suddenly discussing it like this is a serious petition for change?

Wow, well done ignoring almost everything I said! This thread is about which we like best and why; I expressed my opinion.

And surely you see the hypocrisy in your "are you intolerant of other peoples tastes? You don't get to decide what other people wear." comment.

I didn't say anything about it being "realistic". Again, if you actually read what I wrote, I am all in favour of a variety of sexy armour. Let's have it in crafted, in dungeon drops!

I just think there's a time and a place, and AF is not that place.

"entertaining the idea that there could be something for everyone" - Yes, that's exactly what I want.

[SarcasmMisser]

Wow, well done ignoring almost everything I said! This thread is about which we like best and why; I expressed my opinion.

And surely you see the hypocrisy in your "are you intolerant of other peoples tastes? You don't get to decide what other people wear." comment.

I didn't say anything about it being "realistic". Again, if you actually read what I wrote, I am all in favour of a variety of sexy armour. Let's have it in crafted, in dungeon drops!

I just think there's a time and a place, and AF is not that place.

"entertaining the idea that there could be something for everyone" - Yes, that's exactly what I want.

Why are you so mad? Does the issue of skin in a video game really cut deep for you? You should be introspective and ask why, the armor at the end of the day is their vision and an artists vision is an independent thing. The OPs response is a correct one, as an artist he articulated his own vision and all of them are valid.

My point, and why you hate my answer, is that people don't want to entertain the idea because they have gone completely partisan on the issue of skin in a video game. As if barely clothed catgirls have slighted them so bad nothing less than a strict adherence to absurd prudishness would satisfy them. I'm going to think you are one of these people because you are so utterly combative over what started as a simple point of tolerance, and please point out the hypocrisy in pointing out intolerance in people who are telling artists how to design their armor. Or people who call others 13 year olds as if men become complete stoics when they hit adulthood and no longer express interest in the female body. I am doing neither of these things, the only thing I'm intolerant about is the stupidity in criticizing how other people dress in a final fantasy game as if it has any bearing on what you do.

My absolute and simple position is that I don't think how they design their armor is an issue to treat seriously because it's a video game, its something you play to waste time, for the creator it's a product of their vision and it means nothing more than that.

[seida]

My point, and why you hate my answer, is that people don't want to entertain the idea because they have gone completely partisan on the issue of skin in a video game.

I'm mad because you are ignoring what I'm saying. I am PERFECTLY FINE with skin showing (please! Read that again!) I just do not want the AF VERSIONS of job gear to be significantly different depending on gender. (and please note the significantly! Differences in silhouette to show figure is fine).

THAT. IS. ALL.

I will stop being mad if you actually read my post instead of labelling me a "prude" for no reason

editing to add: I DO think OP's sexy dark knight armour is really cool. I would like for it to exist as a craftable or dungeon armour. But I think the official AF should be equal. Sorry that's so prudish and offensive to you!