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  1. #21
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    Raminax's Avatar
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    Shinonome Sanada
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    Miqo'te says that it likes all the healers. Do you wish to challenge it?

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  2. #22
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    Saseal Korei
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vid View Post
    Monk > All. There's no contest. I'm sorry but Second Wind is by far the most potent heal in the game right now. WHM & SCH can't even compare.
    Potions > All
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    Last edited by Saseal; 04-25-2015 at 09:34 AM.

  3. #23
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    Are you sick and tired of putting up with gimpy WHM? Wanting to meet and team with like-minded SCH? Astute Scholar Society is here for you. Our members enjoy special privileges: unlimited stacks of aetherflow, zero cool down time, invincible and intelligent fairies, inexhaustible mana pool, high dps with accuracy and damage comparable to our cousin SMN, and more. Members have access to various workshops that will empower them to write effective troll posts and draft persuasive WHM-elimination petitions. Join now and get the special one-time-only bonus: the platinum edition of How to Gimp a WHM, a timeless guide by WHM Bashing Association (WBA). Together let's build a WHM-free world for Erozea!

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    I am sooooo dead..... *facepalm*
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yare View Post
    Together let's build a WHM-free world for Erozea!
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    Sanguisio Alorea
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    I think mnks are the best healers
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  6. #26
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vid View Post
    Monk > All. There's no contest. I'm sorry but Second Wind is by far the most potent heal in the game right now. WHM & SCH can't even compare.
    Second Wind only works on the user though. And Potency isn't the most important factor of a heal.

    But yeah, no you're right.
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  7. #27
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    To be serious, if FFXIV goes the way other MMOs have gone with damage mitigation healers, SCH will eventually become the king of all the healers. They'll try to balance them with the others. Every new expac will give them nerfs but the nature of their class is such that nerfs make them barely playable and they will soon get buffs again.

    Look at WoW. They've been trying to nerf Disc Priests for whole expacs and nothing having. Atonement healing didn't help things (damage done by the priest would smart heal lowest HP player within a radius with 90% of damage done) but they were beast before that and they're still beast after that.

    I really hope SCH's don't go that way so much.
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  8. #28
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alisi View Post
    To be serious, if FFXIV goes the way other MMOs have gone with damage mitigation healers, SCH will eventually become the king of all the healers. They'll try to balance them with the others. Every new expac will give them nerfs but the nature of their class is such that nerfs make them barely playable and they will soon get buffs again.

    Look at WoW. They've been trying to nerf Disc Priests for whole expacs and nothing having. Atonement healing didn't help things (damage done by the priest would smart heal lowest HP player within a radius with 90% of damage done) but they were beast before that and they're still beast after that.

    I really hope SCH's don't go that way so much.
    The nature of most MMORPG's is that they rely on power creep. FFXIV so far hasn't (yay levelsync/ilevelsync) but you can tell where there are holes in it. The "tomes" gear is one large hole. Another example, the spiritbonding bots out in the level 46/47 monster areas rely on the fact that there is NO levelsync on field monsters. This can be more easily patched over by changing the wear rates for using AOE's so you can't really sit there and cast Holy non stop for an hour. Bots choose BLM and WHM to farm stuff, occasionally throwing in a BRD to make their mana last longer. You don't see SCH/ACN/SMN bots.

    But the game would be far too boring if they didn't bring in new skills sometimes. How do you make old skills still relevant without making new skills OP? Well the game already has levelsync, so you can't use new skills on old content (if they are above level 50,) and old skills scale with level. So perhaps what happens is that at level 55, certain skills become other skills, eg Stone I becomes Stoneara I, Cure I becomes Curara I or something, and skills that require a chain (eg Cure -> Cure II freecure) still offer those buffs. Think about how the pets are replaced on the SCH/SMN. Anything with a DoT is doubled from the previous skill, or the potency is doubled, or something of that nature. Saves having to reconfigure bars just to play levelsynced content.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raminax View Post
    Miqo'te says that it likes all the healers. Do you wish to challenge it?

    Buuuuuuuuuut skittles . Omg such a hard choice.
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  10. #30
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    Saseal Korei
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    Just to derail some more, yet be in Healer topic....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4akl6AUj_JM
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