Please do NOT alter Dark Knight AF for female characters.

[Kuurei]

WoL set -- Looks no different between genders
Phleggy set -- Looks no different between genders
PLD AF -- Looks no different between genders

This is all plate stuff, however when we look at Cloth/Scale/Leather, there are obvious gender differences such as the Subligars looking totally diff on males vs on women. XD

[Kikoten]

No hips, thighs, or breasts bared?!

But...but...how will they cater to their male audience?!

Joking aside, I'd like to see actual menacing Dark Knights (I'd like to be one, too, but, you know, Lalafell...). I come from an MMORPG I shall not mention, and too many times when I've seen high level armor on melee fighters, I'd swear that sex appeal was the primary goal. That's nice once in a while, but when it gets to the point where I sit there, not having even seen new armor, and think, I bet she'll be half-naked, and it turns out I'm right...

Yeeeaaahhh, no.

[Eidolon]

Character data limits, guys.

Less armor = less data.

So as long as the fairer sex wears less armor, we're all safe from the horrible omens predictions by the ancient mayans as long as your stomache, thighs, chest, shoulders, arms, hips, and butt are exposed. The more you expose, the more we protect THE FUTURE.

[Shougun]

If you view it as fashion and 'clothing' I suppose you can make some of these arguments I've seen here, but IMO I see it as armor and I just don't quite feel that adequately describes taking out piece of armor just to show more body - particularly on a single gender. All it does to me is scream "kill me" and "pick a man if you want more intelligent protection".

I'd like it a lot more when both their gear themes (tanks tank, mages shouldn't be hit or hindered so less armor is fine) and each others gender match. Which to be fair SE has done alright with (dragoon though is a flop example), they're better than other MMOs at least lol*. If its a skirt on females, then make it a skirt on males. Although, as people have said tank gear made for tanks is generally designed around protection (my own personal qualms with glamour allowing bikini snowman paladins aside...).

While boobs are a big deal (huehue), imo, this stuff isn't just about the boobs - its why they are being treated differently and seemingly why the men are making better decisions. Also most people don't have a real life reference, but no- women's armor should not include boob caves or windows, they're bad ideas (in games most often while men follow something along the lines of fantasy realism women just got tossed off into the pool of fantasy, no realism for you*). At least make both genders make bad choices together, or the option to (like /visor just add toggles to gears /chesttrinket lol). It would still look silly to me if someone chose the window over not, but then when it is an option I'd know its just someone who wants to show their body (male or female), over being forced into the "girls can't wear armor as well as men, even if it isn't that heavy - they just have to remove something from it, specially remove it at the BnB areas" group video games love to place them in.

So while in video games some see gender separated clothes and fashion and unimportant for protection, I see armor and one gender consistently making poor choices when compared within the own game's construct. Again though, while it doesn't mean SE gets a free pass from comments (you never get a free pass from approach and reproach, imo), SE has actually done a pretty good job when you compare them to most other games within the same genre (imo.. :P)*.

*part of it references games in general and I wanted to make concession that for example Noct Lorica armor is actually the /same/ for both male and female (as most tank gears have very little or no difference, that's awesome).

At least we dont have Tera's Tank armor. Like Shogun said, its a rare thing in FFXIV for the "belly window" issue to occur. I just hope they maintain that. Maybe have some glamor gear for those who like the look but not for the base, BiS, or endgame gear.

Au Ra Armor leaked!

Unleak! UNLEAK! lol

[MageBlack]

At least we dont have Tera's Tank armor. Like Shogun said, its a rare thing in FFXIV for the "belly window" issue to occur. I just hope they maintain that. Maybe have some glamor gear for those who like the look but not for the base, BiS, or endgame gear.



Au Ra Armor leaked!

[Kosmos992k]

If you view it as fashion and 'clothing' I suppose you can make some of these arguments I've seen here, but IMO I see it as armor and I just don't quite feel that adequately describes taking out piece of armor just to show more body - particularly on a single gender. All it does to me is scream "kill me" and "pick a man if you want more intelligent protection".

If this was the real world, then yes, I can totally see your point. however arguing that a lack of metal plate somehow depletes the armor utterly ignores the fact that the basic materials of our armor in this game (like so many others) could not stand up for a millisecond against the attacks of a primal, or the various death machines that the Garleans use. I would anticipate that the attacks of a large dragon would similarly overwhelm any such materials.

Clearly then our armor is something special, imbued with forms of protection that go beyond the mere physical ability to deflect or withstand damage. The aesthetics of the armor are therefore far more open to modification since the protective properties of the armor are not based on it's physicality. In which case, what does it matter whether a navel is covered?

That said, I'm not advocating this either;

Au Ra Armor leaked!

Although It might increase the number of female Au Ra we see, not that a lack of numbers will be a problem with those....

[LaylaTsarra]

At least we dont have Tera's Tank armor. Like Shogun said, its a rare thing in FFXIV for the "belly window" issue to occur. I just hope they maintain that. Maybe have some glamor gear for those who like the look but not for the base, BiS, or endgame gear.



Au Ra Armor leaked!

That is from Tera I was told and not Final Fantasy.

[Niwashi]

I wounder where the fear is coming. DRK AF will be tank gear, not DPS gear like DRG AF. Show one female version of Tank gear that show a lot more skin than the male version.

"Tank" and "DPS" are gameplay concepts, not job image concepts. It's just as counter to the Dragoon image as it is to the Dark Knight image to make a sexy revealing version for one gender. Both should be fully armored to suit the image of the job. There can be fully armored DPS jobs (like Dragoon, for instance). And though we don't have them in this game yet, there can also be unarmored or lightly armored tank jobs if they rely on evasion rather than absorbing blows to survive.

[Ryuko]

Somewhat related... can I just point out how bizarre it is, on a functional level, that female dragoons have that hole in the front?

Here they are, a class that specializes in POLEARMS... and they wear armor that makes them SUPER vulnerable to polearms? (You could run them right through with a spear in that 'stomach' hole...)

[Nephera]

Also just because MMO gear

more pictures like this need to be drawn