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  1. #211
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    Khalette's Avatar
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    Gypsy Whisperwind
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 56
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    but the whm already has some nice HoTs AND aoe heal c.c,,
    I agree, but I'm talking about 2-3 HoTs instead of one. One that can be "released" and heal for full for emergency situations. A rolling, stacking HoT, and a casted single target light heal that adds a HoT. There's just room to wiggle, and you're right, WHM has amazing AoE's -- so if their one HoT spell doesn't step up as much as other healing spells, they'll take the AoE spot, while SCH will stick with shield stereotype, and AST becomes the HoT healer.

    Just my thoughts, and I think it'll make a nice trilogy to an already great duo.

    I also think there's a way to make the Esuna an interesting class type:
    SCH - Removes all debuffs on one target 30 second cd
    WHM - Removes one debuff from each person in party 1 min cd
    AST - Removes a debuff every 5 seconds for 30 seconds, 1.5 min cd
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    Last edited by Khalette; 04-18-2015 at 11:41 PM.

  2. #212
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    Jeyrr Stenn
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Considering the new lore about how Astros can alter fate, maybe they will give the party evasion buffs? It's hard to think of something else that mechanically reflects the idea of "this hit wasn't destined to kill you".
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  3. #213
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_umi View Post
    Then whats the point of bringing a bard then if that happens.
    Also i thought yoshi was going to change bard ( so chances r it'll be either a hit or miss scenario )
    Why bring X when Y can do it better and provide some dps etc.
    Because you give them buffs that BRDs don't have.
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  4. #214
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    KarstenS's Avatar
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    Lilli Karani
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jacost View Post
    Considering the new lore about how Astros can alter fate, maybe they will give the party evasion buffs? It's hard to think of something else that mechanically reflects the idea of "this hit wasn't destined to kill you".
    When I look how useless parry is in FCoB, that would be not a good idea.
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  5. #215
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    Nyel Netherwind
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    Lich
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    White Mage Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Jacost View Post
    Considering the new lore about how Astros can alter fate, maybe they will give the party evasion buffs? It's hard to think of something else that mechanically reflects the idea of "this hit wasn't destined to kill you".
    Shields would have been the best thing for Astros regarding that lore but Scholars have shields...

    I don't know what other types of healing are there besides the usual ones like:

    * HoT-Healer
    * Shield-Healer
    * AoE-Healer
    * ST-Healer

    Whitemage has AoE, ST and Hots, Scholar has Shields - not that much left for Astro right now.
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  6. #216
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    the whm has shields too ^^ nobody seems to notice that, probably because it's always there - but i'm pretty sure you will miss the 15% mdef buff from whm >.>
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  7. #217
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    Raifu Kurogaea
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    If its anything like Ace from Final Fantasy type-0 I'm max leveling it and never using it again. Had enough of trying to pull out a heal card and wind up with an attack card just to die.
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  8. #218
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    Estellise Valesti
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    I'm kinda surprised how active this thread got. :P

    I've editted the first post with additional information found on the FFXIV Wiki.
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  9. #219
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    what about cleric stance? when astrologican doesn't need any base classes, will he have an own damage stance? or will he need the whm crosskill too? for playing scholar you need whm on lvl 15, so you will have cleric stance anyway.

    otherwise... i'm sure he will get the skills from whm. but which is the other class he will get skills from? cleric stance, protect, stoneskin - swiftcast, surecast - eye for an eye, virus.... hope whm + blm :x

    buuuut: if you have the heal stance in wich the heals are heals and a shield stance in wich the heals are shieds. what will the heals be in cleric stance?
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    Last edited by Tint; 04-24-2015 at 04:02 PM.

  10. #220
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    stuff
    I'm curious as well. Without CS an AST won't be as useful for DPSing or soloing as the other two healers which would be pretty bad. And without Swiftcast they would be so gimped... It's going to be interesting so see what happens with Crossclass skills. I'm wondering if they are going to change it to 3 classes that every ob can crossclass with or something. Because AST may need some ACN spells as well (virus, e4e).
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