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  1. 04-23-2015 08:31 PM

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    Niwashi's Avatar
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post


    The theme is the same for both genders but you can see that the male X-shape and female hourglass shape are emphasized. Notice how the female gear is nothing like a beach bikini that people keep offering as the alternative for tin can armor.
    What do you mean it's nothing like it? Every single woman in your picture is wearing skimpy swimwear while the men are all fully clothed. Ok, so the women's outfits are based on a one piece swimsuit or teddy rather than a bikini, but whether it's swimwear or lingerie, none of them have clothes on.

    I actually do think the male and female versions should be modeled to suit each gender's body shape. The Noct armour is horrible because it fails to do that. The problem there isn't because women get the same gear as men, it's because they get the same gear as men that's still fitted to a man's shape regardless of the character wearing it. SE did a far better job with most of the rest of the armour in the game, giving the same gear but fitted to the character, so the female versions show off the female form flatteringly.

    They really screw up when they try to give women different gear than the men, though, especially when they do it on iconic AF gear, like the DRG or NIN sets. The male versions of both of those look great and would look great on a woman as well, but women can't get them, because SE decided to change it up (which is to say screw it up) for the female version, giving them a different and far worse outfit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    What do you mean it's nothing like it? Every single woman in your picture is wearing skimpy swimwear while the men are all fully clothed. Ok, so the women's outfits are based on a one piece swimsuit or teddy rather than a bikini, but whether it's swimwear or lingerie, none of them have clothes on.
    People's opinions vastly differ on what is or isn't "skimpy swimwear", "lingerie" or "clothes". I wouldn't call those outfits "skimpy" or "lingerie", myself. I also disagree with your statement that male versions of DRG and NIN look great. I happen to vastly prefer the female versions, myself. So, since you're playing a male character and I'm playing a female character, everything's wonderful, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riepah View Post
    So, since you're playing a male character and I'm playing a female character, everything's wonderful, right?
    Well, it's true that my main character whom I play the most is male, but I actually play several characters. For the males, I have a male Miqo'te, male Hyur, and will soon have a male Au Ra. For the females, I have a female Elezen and a female Lalafel. I've also designed a couple female Roegadyn but haven't really started them yet (in part because I can't decide which I like better). So I have some interest in the gear for both genders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    They really screw up when they try to give women different gear than the men
    They do? Because especially the female Ninja and Dragoon AF sets look way better than the male version.
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  6. 04-24-2015 12:17 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
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    Yeah. You and I have different definitions of the word "skimpy", my friend. The Assassin and Chanter classes has the men with a front jacket and midriff, respectively. Heck, the sin class male is more revealing than the female. He might as well be topless. :P

    And you're exaggerating on the "No clothes on" bit. They're showing a bit a skin, tastefully, I might add, but it's far from lingerie or swimwear.
    As someone already said in this thread, there's is a different between tastefully showing some skin and flat having nothing but a few pieces of clothing on. And, those pic there, (kudos for Reinha showing the Aion armor sets, btw), are tasteful.

    Actually, it...kinda seems as if you're more against showing skin (on women...apparently, for you, men can show quite a bit before even thinking the outfits they're wearing are too revealing or unrealistic), period.
    Edit: lol seems someone beat me to posting. Exactly, Riepah. :P
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    Being Tank armor, I highly doubt it'll be impacted by gender differences. WAR armor isn't impacted at all, and PLD is only affected by like... 1% perhaps? Though with all the people throwing out posts that show they're basically being entitled pricks, especially in the DRG armor thread, I'd be laughing my head off if the DRK armor for females ended up being skimpy. I'd even go as far as to saying that it's a "TAKE THAT!" from the developers, who are getting fed up with all the complaints and decided to take a pot shot at this forum.

    The biggest thing people tend to forget is that they are NOT the ones in control of this game. The developers are. They also tend to forget that different people have different tastes. Some people actually LIKE having a little exposure, both male AND female players alike. (GASP! I know right? Female players that actually like a little exposure on their character!? Madness!) So the moment you try to overwrite someone else's personal preference on the way an armor piece looks just because you don't like it, you've gone too far. The world does NOT revolve around you. Period.

    Personally, I'd like it if the DRK armor remained fully clothed simply for being Tank armor and the fact that it does look really awesome that way, but I won't go on a rampage if it ends up looking different on a female character.
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