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    Here is the issue folks. If you decide to change the design of a certain piece of armor for reasons like this, then when will it stop from there? People will find the next piece to complain about and want that changed. It causes a chain of events. I think the only time armor should be adjusted is if it has bad clipping issues with a lot of styles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    Here is the issue folks. If you decide to change the design of a certain piece of armor for reasons like this, then when will it stop from there? People will find the next piece to complain about and want that changed. It causes a chain of events. I think the only time armor should be adjusted is if it has bad clipping issues with a lot of styles.
    Yep, not to mention a ton of people like the armor just the way it is now and don't even want a change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riepah View Post
    Yep, not to mention a ton of people like the armor just the way it is now and don't even want a change.
    The real question is why do male Dragoons have protection for their mid section with scale mail or dragon scales (w/e it is) and the female Dragoons do not?

    Let's face it if there were actual scales on the mid section it would look even better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavise View Post
    The real question is why do male Dragoons have protection for their mid section with scale mail or dragon scales (w/e it is) and the female Dragoons do not?

    Let's face it if there were actual scales on the mid section it would look even better.
    Because it's sexier. Who care of "visual" protection on a video game where it doesn't have an impact?
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    Quote Originally Posted by reptiliane View Post
    Because it's sexier. Who care of "visual" protection on a video game where it doesn't have an impact?
    Sexier for men, maybe (and homosexual women). But what about women (and homo guys)? Where's the manservice? Expose maleDRG tummies nao!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Sexier for men, maybe (and homosexual women). But what about women (and homo guys)? Where's the manservice? Expose maleDRG tummies nao!
    From my experience, straight females and homo guys wear bikini or coliseum subligar on their male dragoons :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Sexier for men, maybe (and homosexual women). But what about women (and homo guys)? Where's the manservice? Expose maleDRG tummies nao!
    Have you seen the mnk af for heavensward?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Sexier for men, maybe (and homosexual women). But what about women (and homo guys)? Where's the manservice? Expose maleDRG tummies nao!
    There is a ton of armor that shows a lot of skin on both male and female on all jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    There is a ton of armor that shows a lot of skin on both male and female on all jobs.
    Certainly there is. But we're talking about DRG armor specifically in this thread. There's no arguing that glamour allows for a rainbow of options - but none of those options allows for Dragoon armor on a male character with stomach exposed. Or, for that matter, Dragoon armor on a female with stomach covered.

    Honestly, it's a discussion that has no end. SE is extremely unlikely to do anything about the original armors at this point, and so folks are going to be bickering about it until the end of time.

    With any luck, though, in the future they'll avoid the silliness. Armor can be cut differently across genders - females DO have a different body shape than males, there's no denying that - but if it's going to be fanservicey on one gender, it should likewise be on the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavise View Post
    The real question is why do male Dragoons have protection for their mid section with scale mail or dragon scales (w/e it is) and the female Dragoons do not?

    Let's face it if there were actual scales on the mid section it would look even better.
    Honestly, I don't think that's because it's "sexier" or "more aesthetic" that way... Why would there be this hole meanwhile all the other AF are the same for both genders ?

    Compared to every other job, it's the only one that demands a high level of flexibility... And don't object that NIN too demands that, NIN demands another type of physical training. It's the same difference as there is between a gymnast and a free runner. And, because of their pelvis, Male DRG are less flexible than Female DRG. So, there is probably a slight difference in their combat style : Men focus more on strength and, maybe, blocking, and women focus more on dodging and hitting the right spot. That's just a theory, but if that's the case, then, the lack of scales can be explained : Male DRG are more likely to be hit, while Female dodge, and the fact that this plate is not there enhance their flexibility.

    If you really wanna complain about something : How come females can equip male's wedding costume while males can't equip female's wedding costume ? That's sexist !
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