Fan Census: This is embarrassing

[Sapphic]

Are the numbers calculated from achievements? If so it doesn't take into account those who block access to their achievements which would skew the numbers off for a start.

If not achievements, how are the numbers calculated?

XIVpads cannot take achievements from those who have blocked access.

Example, from achievements page for me on XIVpads


No Achievements!

Achievements are parsed and updated seperately from character data. It could take a while but hopefully not too long! If you are eager to see your achievements, click the "Update" button and follow the instructions

Alternatively, this character may have their achievements private, which means they will never show up! /cry

Bolded the important part.

If thats the case, JP may just be more open with their achievement page on Lodestone in comparison.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

That kind of goes against human logic and understanding though, normally a person who actually did it would wanna turn them on. The people who don't even care about it wouldn't know, or wouldn't even bother turning them off.

[Sapphic]

That kind of goes against human logic and understanding though, normally a person who actually did it would wanna turn them on. The people who don't even care about it wouldn't know, or wouldn't even bother turning them off.

Nope, it doesn't.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Nope, it doesn't.

Let me explain.

People who do the stuff, probably do it to be special and unique. They wear their gear and achievements to show off. They would probably never turn off their achievements. That would be rather stupid and against human logic. They do it for that reason, so why would they do it otherwise?

The people who don't do it, don't care about the achievements in the first place (me) and wouldn't even bother turning them off. I don't even know how! I don't care.

[Elim]

Let me explain.

People who do the stuff, probably do it to be special and unique. They wear their gear and achievements to show off. They would probably never turn off their achievements. That would be rather stupid and against human logic. They do it for that reason, so why would they do it otherwise?

The people who don't do it, don't care about the achievements in the first place (me) and wouldn't even bother turning them off. I don't even know how! I don't care.

I don't have my achievements turned on. Also I wear the gear because some of it's my BiS...

What I do use is the title because it's awesome.

[tocsin]

If not achievements, how are the numbers calculated?

It is my understanding that these numbers are calculated through the number of characters that have obtained the louisoix minion, which cannot be hidden on the lodestone.

[kyuven]

It is my understanding that these numbers are calculated through the number of characters that have obtained the louisoix minion, which cannot be hidden on the lodestone.

Don't you have to talk to an NPC to get that minion?

[tocsin]

Don't you have to talk to an NPC to get that minion?

Probably, but, if you are going to go through the whole questline, AND beat T13 for it, you are nearly 100% likely going to turn in the quest.

although, you are right, there may be a small number of FcoB people that never go to old gridania to get the minion. so, these numbers may be slightly inaccurate, but I would estimate it to be likely within 10%

[Tiggy]

snip.

The Minions are available and the Louisoix minion can only be obtained by completing T13. It's not a perfect calculation since some may never pick it but it's close enough for comparison due to the law of averages. The difference between the Japanese servers and the US/EU is so stark that pointing out a few small discrepancies doesn't change the statistical significance of the data.

Just wanted to touch in after this many pages with a note. I said it was embarrassing, but I never said why or even guided the conversation to a specific reason because I wanted to see what people would say and how they would react to the data. It's been fun seeing how people make assumptions about what I meant despite how I never specified why I thought it was embarrassing.

I do want to add this though since I've seen this reply mentioned often. Just because some people don't want to do coil and prefer other content does not explain away the discrepancy. They don't have 100% completion either so obviously that aspect isn't exclusive to us and can't be the exclusive reason for the data we see here. Just some food for thought.

Back to watching and observing.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

I said it was embarrassing, but I never said why or even guided the conversation to a specific reason because I wanted to see what people would say and how they would react to the data. It's been fun seeing how people make assumptions about what I meant despite how I never specified why I thought it was embarrassing.

I do want to add this though since I've seen this reply mentioned often. Just because some people don't want to do coil and prefer other content does not explain away the discrepancy. They don't have 100% completion either so obviously that aspect isn't exclusive to us and can't be the exclusive reason for the data we see here. Just some food for thought.

Back to watching and observing.

Then why couldn't you have just said that from the very beginning instead of trying this "social experiment"?