HQing 3 Star 40 Durability Materials?

[Grimmel]

Edit: I just remembered they're 80 Durability items. x_x

Whats a good rotation and/or macro fro HQing 3 Star 80 Durability materials like Wolfram Ingots and Ancient Lumber?

[ZephyrZ]

Mr. Trebek, that's an easy answer. What is. . figure it out yourself instead of looking for handouts. =D

[Grimmel]

Mr. Trebek, that's an easy answer. What is. . figure it out yourself instead of looking for handouts. =D

Uh.. you don't think I haven't tried already? Don't be an ass in the part of the forums where it's actually alright to ask for a macro/rotation.

[KinnisonArc]

Is this for the Lucis 3star token? I'm not sure about your crafting stats but when I did it for Pinga Lucis, I had somewhere just enough for 4star and 395 CP (With Bouillabaisse)

For my rotation, I don't think it is the most optimum myself but it certainly did helped me anyway with only 3-4 failed attempts due to Hasty or unfavorable RNG. Might not work if your stats aren't enough for 4star

In my rotation:

> At least 3 Master Mend 1 so you have enough dura to get at least 10 IQ stacks, you can sub this with Manipulation but you need to aware that it will botch your synth if you use synth/touch action when dura is 10.
> At least 3 ToT is required to have enough CP so do it whenever possible, more is better so you could have additional MM1 or use the CP for basic touch instead of hasty to ensure you get enough IQ stack.
> My rotation doesn't use Ingenuity 2, I used Rapid Synth with another Rapid or 2x Careful Synth. Use the latter for a more safer rotation.
> Ideally you would want at least 10 IQ stack for a good chance, 11 is best, 9 is still okay if there's Good condition on Byregot. Anything lower than those is pretty much means you need to hope RNG is in your favor to not NQ it, if you NQ you can exchange them back for the base materials anyway so no worries.
Anyway here's the macro if you want to take a look at it, I'm not sure if it works on any stats lower than 4star requirement but if you have spare resources you could try it out yourself.
If you want to live dangerously, you can substitute the last two CS2 with one Rapid Synth for another extra dura to get another IQ stack

----Macro 1----
/ac "Comfort Zone" <wait.2>
/ac "Inner Quiet" <wait.2>
/ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
/ac "Rapid Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Master's Mend" <wait.3>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Tricks of the Trade" <wait.2>
/ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Comfort Zone" <wait.2>
/ac "Master's Mend" <wait.3>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
----Macro 2----
/ac "Tricks of the Trade" <wait.2>
/ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Master's Mend" <wait.3>
/ac "Tricks of the Trade" <wait.2>
/ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
/ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
/ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
/ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>
/ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>

Hope this helps anyway.

[Grimmel]

Is this for the Lucis 3star token? I'm not sure about your crafting stats but when I did it for Pinga Lucis, I had somewhere just enough for 4star and 395 CP (With Bouillabaisse)

Actually it's more for stuff like Wolfram Ingots and Ancient Lumber. But I will try this macro!

[Empty-handed]

((Huh?))

both Wolfarm Ingot and Ancient Lumber are 80 dura :x

[KinnisonArc]

Actually it's more for stuff like Wolfram Ingots and Ancient Lumber. But I will try this macro!

Oh, I thought you meant the Lucis tokens because that's one of the 3star items with 40 dura. The 3star materials you mentioned has 80 dura so the one I posted won't be suitable for that.

[Grimmel]

Snip

Yeah x_x.. I just remembered they had 80 durability. Though if I were to use the macro for the Lucis tools, I still run out of CP. D: And I eat an HQ Bouil and have 395 CP.

[LineageRazor]

Yeah x_x.. I just remembered they had 80 durability. Though if I were to use the macro for the Lucis tools, I still run out of CP. D: And I eat an HQ Bouil and have 395 CP.

Keep in mind that Kinnison's macro depends on three Tricks of the Trade procs. THREE! If my math is right, the amount of CP required if all three are successful is still 376 CP. If even one fails, the macro costs 396 - already out of your CP range. If two fail, that's 416 CP, which I think is unattainable even with the best gear.

Using a macro to synth 3-star and 4-star items is a very poor idea. You need to pounce on pretty much every Good condition that comes your way, and a macro won't do that. 3-star and 4-star recipes are designed so that you can't ignore materials conditions, in the way that you could with 1-star and 2-star crafts. You need to pay attention to your materials conditions every step of the way, and react accordingly. My advice would be to follow the same general pattern as Kin's macro - but do it manually, not using a macro, and use Tricks of the Trade whenever a Good condition pops up.

Also, it's a good idea to learn how to "bait" your Byregot's Blessing at the end of the synth. While not strictly necessary for most 3-star crafts, it's very useful for Lucis tokens and 4-star recipes, and PARAMOUNT for Masterbook II trade-ins. Baiting is something you do after you hit Great Strides, but before you hit Byregot's Blessing. After GS, if materials condition is not Good or Excellent, do something that uses up a turn but does not expend Great Strides (so no touches) or finish the synth (so no synthesis if synthesis will finish the synth).

For example, say I use Great Strides, and materials condition is not Good or Excellent. I have 40 CP left and I need to keep 24 handy for Byregot's Blessing. I know that two more uses of Careful Synthesis II will finish the synth, but one can be used safely. So, I CSII. Condition still isn't Good or Excellent. So, I spend 14 CP on Observe, an ability that does absolutely nothing, simply to pass a turn. Fortune favors me, and the next condition is Good! I mash Byregot's Blessing for a huge quality boost, likely taking me to 100%, and finish the synth.

[ZephyrZ]

Whats a good rotation and/or macro fro HQing 3 Star 40 Durability materials like Wolfram Ingots and Ancient Lumber?

Uh.. you don't think I haven't tried already? Don't be an ass in the part of the forums where it's actually alright to ask for a macro/rotation.

Alex, what is. . If you're not going to try crafting it yourself, how about you bother looking at the recipe before looking for handouts?

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In english, the reason i didn't help you is simple. Your question didn't make sense. The ONLY 40 durability 3 star recipe are the Lucis Token, which leads me to believe that you just wanted a quick answer without even trying it yourself. Yes it is alright to ask for help, advice, and even full rotations as you did but going by that logic, it is also my right to refuse such a request, i don't understand why others' humor those such as yourself who don't even try but to each his own.

EDIT:

There are good assumptions and bad assumptions, from the wording of the question i made what i would think are reasonable assumptions which is that you should know that there are only 80 dura usable 3 star synths because the only 40 dura synth is the lucis token; however you asked for wolfram ingot. Now only you know if i made the right assumption or not and i'll prob get hate for it but. .

The simple fact of the matter is that there is no 3 or 4 star macro, you can't macro either which also renders the question mute. Your choices depend based on your craftsmanship which you had not provided so if anyone did provide you with a macro. There is a chance that the macro could fail because of insufficient craftsmanship. But really, you're asking for a rotation/macro when all we know for sure is that you have blacksmith and carpenter leveled to 50. You not only asked the wrong question, you didn't provide enough information for any kind of intelligent answer, so i didn't provide you with one. But here i'll try to not sound like a jerk and give you an answer based off of the provided information. Your overall choices are 4 or 5 progress steps. Using either a form of pbp + CSII or RS + CSII depending on your craftsmanship, if you don't have CSII, try using basic synthesis or get weaver to 15 and unlock the first CS, standard synth would be a waste of cp. Also, you don't want to go above 6 progress steps, cp food is your best friend. Pick a cheap 80 dura craft that costs < 10k and practice making a rotation that works for you, even if come out NQ you will break even.

EDIT 2: Why does it say you are on Zalera but you say you're on Balmung Oo strange, regardless; I have an alternate on Balmung. The pricing situation isn't that bad. You can make over 50k in less than 5 minutes and in under 7k crafting cost assuming you buy all the mats. So 40k+ profit. Make 10 items and that's 400k+, giving you more than 40 chances to practice. If you have reclaim, you can try a lot more until you find something you're comfortable with.