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  1. #81
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    Nektulos-Tuor's Avatar
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    I think Ninja should have an "Illusion" set they wear, but when they pull out their weapons it switches to their real armor. The illusion set can be literally anything but if you are certain classes, or higher level you should see through the illusion.
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lusavari View Post
    People make a big deal about the hole... but it's not really a big deal because of lance stances.
    While I'm not really keen on defending the "DRG armor hole", one could also consider that Dragoons were originally developed to fight, well, dragons. The dragons we've seen in game don't tend to have any "stabbing" attacks; even the ones with horns don't attempt to gore with them. Instead, they bite, they rake with their claws, they breathe fire and other stuff. All of that, with the possible exception of the breath attacks, is much more likely to strike the armor around the arms and head than they would the belly.

    That said, whether or not the belly hole represents an unreasonable vulnerability isn't really the issue, here. The fact still remains: females' are uncovered, males' have chainmail covering. There's no good reason for this difference between male and female armors aside from fanservice - and, to be honest, it's really not even all that sexy. (Though, opinions on that may vary, I'll grant.) Give the ladies' the chainmail, or take away the mens' I don't really care which.
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
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    I think it would look sexier if the chest was covered. Especially because if a female gets hit their and actually survives being stabbed they will probably be unable to bear a child or have children anymore. Its a very sensitive area.
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  4. #84
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    W'fharl Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    wearing Dragoon AF1 or myth gear is also the players choice (even if as a glamour, or the gear itself with no glamour on it). Nothing force someone to wear it.
    Well, it's a choice after you clear the Main Scenario and unlock glamours and better gear. What if DRG is your first 50 and it's the only chestpiece option you have before endgame, besides dropping a ton of gil on a crafted chest or endlessly farming WP?

    Requiring female characters to go to extra lengths to not expose themselves is the issue being discussed, because it's conceptually backwards from how it works for male characters.
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    Well, it's a choice after you clear the Main Scenario and unlock glamours and better gear. What if DRG is your first 50 and it's the only chestpiece option you have before endgame, besides dropping a ton of gil on a crafted chest or endlessly farming WP?

    Requiring female characters to go to extra lengths to not expose themselves is the issue being discussed, because it's conceptually backwards from how it works for male characters.
    That is a very limited situation, given you have armors before and after even in the same ilvl and a glamour prism easily available.

    This is making mountains out of molehills, even male characters use glamour, there are no "extra steps" involved for female characters.
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    Last edited by Kallera; 04-22-2015 at 04:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    That said, whether or not the belly hole represents an unreasonable vulnerability isn't really the issue, here. The fact still remains: females' are uncovered, males' have chainmail covering. There's no good reason for this difference between male and female armors aside from fanservice - and, to be honest, it's really not even all that sexy. (Though, opinions on that may vary, I'll grant.) Give the ladies' the chainmail, or take away the mens' I don't really care which.


    it don't look like a chainmail to me. More like scaly leather.
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    Last edited by Felis; 04-22-2015 at 04:23 AM.

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    Totally fine with the belly hole. It's fantasy after all.
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  8. #88
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    I wonder if the new DRG AF will have a belly hole as well? We've only see the male version
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  9. #89
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    I bet if we could make the characters fat people would wanna cover it up haha. Think of the insecure slightly overweight females that wanna be dragoons but fear that their bellys will be exposed. Then again they might not make it far off the ground anyways haha.
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    I really hate the "I don't like thing so SE should remove said thing!" attitude some people have.
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