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  1. #541
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio View Post
    Emailing the board of directors...borderline creepy AND insane. >_>
    Like the board has anything at all to do with this game other than looking at expense reports.
    Would prefer to simply get the letter to Yoshida somehow, to be honest. Odds of that seem to be low, but I feel like he doesn't actually know how bad the RMT thing is on NA servers. I wish I knew the proper way... the proper channels through which to make that happen. If their stance still remains the same after, then whatever, at least I tried. I mean, with the amount of replies and such I'm sure at least one of the devs has seen this, but does it go any further than that...
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    Honestly, its a pretty "old-time" tactic. Sending protest letters to the presidents of companies, over and over again until you receive a response, has been something done for decades, to force responses. ever watch the movie "Shawshank Redemption"? remember how the main character kept writing congress for a grant for the prison library, and after 5 years of sending one letter every day, he finally got a response? that's how it works.

    The main problem is, Yoshida is seeming to be blowing off the NA playerbase, and focusing on promoting and selling his new expansion. He really doesn't seem to be paying attention. Maybe a well placed letter from the CEO of SE, telling Yoshida to "Take care of this." may be the only way to get meaningful action.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio View Post
    Emailing the board of directors...borderline creepy AND insane. >_>
    Like the board has anything at all to do with this game other than looking at expense reports.
    if you have a better idea, feel free to share it. Posting on the forums isn't working anymore, as 545 posts and counting in this thread would indicate.
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  3. #543
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    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    Honestly, its a pretty "old-time" tactic. Sending protest letters to the presidents of companies, over and over again until you receive a response, has been something done for decades, to force responses. ever watch the movie "Shawshank Redemption"? remember how the main character kept writing congress for a grant for the prison library, and after 5 years of sending one letter every day, he finally got a response? that's how it works.
    Unfortunately we don't have five years, lol. More like 2 months. If this isn't fixed by Heavensward...I don't wanna think of how many new players will be turned off.
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    Retaliatory report filed. If I can't call him what he is, then I will get his stuff looked at by people who might do something about it.
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  5. #545
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starcade View Post
    Retaliatory report filed. If I can't call him what he is, then I will get his stuff looked at by people who might do something about it.
    Go ahead. matter of fact, I recommend anyone who thinks this same way to do the same. its not the first or even the third time I have talked to GM's, and im sure this wont be the last, either.

    but, until then, please keep this thread clear of useless accusing, and on the topic of trying to get SE to notice that there is an actual issue going on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zabuza View Post
    Unfortunately we don't have five years, lol. More like 2 months. If this isn't fixed by Heavensward...I don't wanna think of how many new players will be turned off.
    its just a literary reference. SE also isn't congress, and we have a petition with over 200 subscribers, not a single prison inmate begging for money, lol.
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    Useless accusing? I called you exactly what you were. I'll keep the language out of it if I must, but to call you an RMT apologist is more than evident by your track record on this thread, and that makes you an enemy of players like me.

    I saw what players like you did to the first SE MMO - made it a cheaters' paradise full of a bunch of fools who basically limit everyone else's ability to play the game by how much they get their butts kissed.

    I'm not going to see that happen twice. The first one got me banned off the XI forums quite quickly. Took about three months.
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    *eyeroll* /blist.

    so, back on topic yet again, unless we have a better idea, ill be picking up some stamps today to send out this petition. I encourage others to do so as well. maybe flooding their corporate mailbox might at least get some heads to turn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zabuza View Post
    but I feel like he doesn't actually know how bad the RMT thing is on NA servers. I wish I knew the proper way... the proper channels through which to make that happen. If their stance still remains the same after, then whatever, at least I tried. I mean, with the amount of replies and such I'm sure at least one of the devs has seen this, but does it go any further than that...
    And in my opinion, I feel that everyone on the JP side knows that the NA/EU servers have it rough on the RMT side. They have had it rough since the time of XI... Even as Tiggy and few others have said, they know. Will we ever see anything done about it? Probably not. There probably will never be a visible change in how they do their proceedings. There weren't any changes made to XI and the RMT situation until the RMT destroyed the economy in that game...and I mean, inflation the way this game will never know.

    It never changed except for that drastic situation back then...do I think it'll change now? No, not really. Are the RMT on the NA/EU servers an issue. Yeah, but not enough for them to lead a campaign against the RMT until the economy in the game is destroyed beyond all saving.
    You can write emails to people completely unrelated to the issue but that will never work.

    They know that there's this issue. Soap boxing this issue until you're an annoying voice on the corner won't change things. The economy in this game needs to crash before they do anything HUGE.

    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    Honestly, its a pretty "old-time" tactic. Sending protest letters to the presidents of companies, over and over again until you receive a response, has been something done for decades, to force responses.
    As you're doing in a way right now with this thread. As I've said before, sending protest letters for something like this is creepy and weird and it'll be seen as that to them most likely.

    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    ever watch the movie "Shawshank Redemption"? remember how the main character kept writing congress for a grant for the prison library, and after 5 years of sending one letter every day, he finally got a response? that's how it works.
    Yeah, he was also stuck in prison. Comparing that to this is a little out there. This is an MMO and our platform to speak with the developers are the forums. They have never spoken back about this matter ever except for the one time that I described above for XI. *shrugs*

    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    The main problem is, Yoshida is seeming to be blowing off the NA playerbase, and focusing on promoting and selling his new expansion. He really doesn't seem to be paying attention.
    As others have said, Yoshi is busy with the expansion. If you think the RMT problem for half the servers is so extreme to DELAY/STOP the expansion, then you're losing touch with the picture at large. Yoshi is not blowing off the NA/EU playerbase. He's busy being held tight to a rigorous schedule.
    He also isn't blowing us off because once again, they have never made any announcements about anything RMT wise since XI. Ever. He's just going according to what they've always done.

    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    if you have a better idea, feel free to share it. Posting on the forums isn't working anymore, as 545 posts and counting in this thread would indicate.
    My idea is and has always been since the beginning of this thread before it became annoying soap box protests and threatening to email everybody, was to give my 2 cents and sit tight. I - along with ALL the other players - know that the expansion is priority 1 and that IF anything is to be done, it will be done then. These disgusting threats of emailing CEOs and the board of directors is so over the top that it's crazy. It's escalating an issue to the highest extreme.

    It's honestly screaming at a parent when they are busy making dinner. Wait for dinner to be made before you email anyone and rant and rave about how you're being neglected.
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    i totally agreed with this one.....
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  10. #550
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio View Post
    As others have said, Yoshi is busy with the expansion. If you think the RMT problem for half the servers is so extreme to DELAY/STOP the expansion, then you're losing touch with the picture at large. Yoshi is not blowing off the NA/EU playerbase. He's busy being held tight to a rigorous schedule.
    He also isn't blowing us off because once again, they have never made any announcements about anything RMT wise since XI. Ever. He's just going according to what they've always done.
    What is to say that they have to delay/stop the expansion to deal with this RMT issue? Hell, they've been releasing all these content patches in between, I can't imagine adding a few QoL features like a right click report button would be that difficult would it? Are you also saying that the fact people have to remain on busy status all the time or they get spammed every single minute nonstop is not extreme?



    Quote Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio View Post
    My idea is and has always been since the beginning of this thread before it became annoying soap box protests and threatening to email everybody, was to give my 2 cents and sit tight. I - along with ALL the other players - know that the expansion is priority 1 and that IF anything is to be done, it will be done then. These disgusting threats of emailing CEOs and the board of directors is so over the top that it's crazy. It's escalating an issue to the highest extreme.

    It's honestly screaming at a parent when they are busy making dinner. Wait for dinner to be made before you email anyone and rant and rave about how you're being neglected.
    You realize that if nothing happens - if this doesn't change at all, and Heavensward comes out...Do you understand how many new players are going to be driven away? It IS going to be too late by then, that's the problem. To be honest, you are also exaggerating the "creepiness factor" of this. They are not going to be creeped out by this, I assure you. My guess is that they will give it a quick once over and then move on...and by once over I mean, literally reading maybe the first sentence if that.
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