Square Enix - You okay bruh?

[Airget]

I don't know why people don't understand what "aggressive tactics" are. It's like you think that as SE bans RMT they are just going to sit around and do nothing, nope, they become more aggressive because it's sell before they get banned.

It just is annoying to continuously see people accuse SE of "slacking" or "not doing anything about RMT" when they constantly post updates of bans and suspensions put on accounts in a near weekly or bi-weekly basis.

When accounts are banned, yes it quiets down for a little bit, before the RMT create new characters to start selling gil, then of course if the ones holding the gil haven't been banned yet but characters how may have traded gil to x account have been banned they are of course more aggressive because once an account is banned they lose all that gil.

You can't blame SE for RMT becoming for aggressive while they are being banned because that's a natural reaction to them being snuffed out, it's like telling people investing in a stock to not pull out when their investment';s worth just keeps dropping when they keep losing money it's like well pull out now before they lose even more money.

Their aggressive nature is actually a positive response in terms of how effective they are at eliminating RMT because they are showing how desperate they are and they are desperate because they know their gil accounts may be banned at any moment.

[BreathlessTao]

This is just another way the RMT are bypassing the chat filters that SE puts in. The character names are there for them to probably to advertise through friend requests.

Point in fact. They shouldn't be able to do that, which is why such character names should not be allowed to exist in the first place.

They have to be very careful when updating the chat filters. There are players that use the chat. They can't just filter out every word the RMT uses because at some point, if they did, it's going to affect the playerbase one way or another.

I'm not talking about chat filters, I'm talking about character name filters. Given the state things are now, I'm not convinced they are separate lists, but I am pretty sure it could be done. And things being as they are is exactly why they should be separate lists.

Either you edit your post to bypass it, or stay within the limit. Pretty ironic, wouldn't you say?

Again, my point exactly - staying within the limit doesn't really allow for anything to be elaborated (might be more ok for Japanese, because of the kanji, but Western languages are completely different); and the fact that it can so easily be circumvented completely beats the point of its existence anyway. Not to mention the whole method is nothing but an annoying punishment to nobody but those who legitimately just want to express their opinion - unnecessarily overcomplicated, just like, for example, declining friend requests in the game.

[BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY]

I don't know why people don't understand what "aggressive tactics" are. It's like you think that as SE bans RMT they are just going to sit around and do nothing, nope, they become more aggressive because it's sell before they get banned.

It just is annoying to continuously see people accuse SE of "slacking" or "not doing anything about RMT" when they constantly post updates of bans and suspensions put on accounts in a near weekly or bi-weekly basis.

When accounts are banned, yes it quiets down for a little bit, before the RMT create new characters to start selling gil, then of course if the ones holding the gil haven't been banned yet but characters how may have traded gil to x account have been banned they are of course more aggressive because once an account is banned they lose all that gil.

You can't blame SE for RMT becoming for aggressive while they are being banned because that's a natural reaction to them being snuffed out, it's like telling people investing in a stock to not pull out when their investment';s worth just keeps dropping when they keep losing money it's like well pull out now before they lose even more money.

Their aggressive nature is actually a positive response in terms of how effective they are at eliminating RMT because they are showing how desperate they are and they are desperate because they know their gil accounts may be banned at any moment.

i am sorry, but Square Enix IS slacking. there has been absolutely no change in either their actions taken against RMT activity or in the actual RMT activity since launch. yeah, they suspend/ban people. but they only do this once per week. this IS considered slacking. and further more, RMT activity doesn't decline a single bit after they supposedly issue punishment. all-in-all, there's zero evidence that they do anything at all. it is almost two years now, they are slacking and it shows.

[Devils_Lawyer]

Regardless whatever SE is working on something behind the scenes or not, it dosnt excuse the fact that there are plenty of smaller things they could have added by now to limit the damage done by rmt.

Everything from beeing able to choose who can send tells to easier way to blacklist those that send friend requests.

So i agree that SE feels lazy or ignorant to the issue at hand and should really consider doing something soon before people get annoyed enough that they rather go play something else.

[BreathlessTao]

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Bans are like band-aids: they might help stop the bleeding (ie. the symptom) from going absolutely everywhere, but they don't actually heal the cut (ie. the injury) itself. Banning is like changing the band-aid time and time again, but the bleeding doesn't stop from that, as it's very apparent in the game. They need to implement methods to actually make the life of RMTs more difficult: improve message filters, improve the way messages are handled (limiting tells for example), improve the ways such characters can be declined and ignored and reported (in addition I'd also say take legal action, but that's apparently too complicated to do). None of this seems to be being done, that's the slacking bit. The regular bans obviously don't help much, since RMTs just keep coming back with newer and newer (and more?) characters every time anyway.

[Buff_Archer]

What I take issue with is the degree to which they're able to cause QoL issues for us without us having been given solutions to mitigate them. And there are viable solutions that have been brought up for a long time... such as allowing players to update personal settings re: who can send them Tells (options could include Friends list, FC members, etc); or implementing a 'right click to report system' that flags & mutes accounts after a certain number of people have chosen this option (and this would not be abused like some think if designed intelligently, and if people who do false reports would get banned). This is like if you were eating at a restaurant and people kept running in and out, getting up on your table and farting in your face every 5 minutes, and when you complain the manager suggests that you could just hold your nose each time.

I really don't give a damn how many accounts are getting banned for RMT every month or so because I'm still getting spammed nonstop.

[Devils_Lawyer]

(in addition I'd also say take legal action, but that's apparently too complicated to do)

Legal Action should be doable since ARR is a product that SE sells and if they can prove that the rmt/bots is harming their product it might work.

Runescape

(name hidden incase of forum rules) took legal action against a company using bots in their game and won, bot owners were convicted to never ever be allowed to be near any of their games again or risk facing prison time.

[Tanama]

SE, give me the option to block /tells from level one characters and grant me the option to block friend requests. Just give us more options to deal with this BS. I returned from a rather long break to see the RMT situation has NOT improved one bit.

[Niwashi]

It just is annoying to continuously see people accuse SE of "slacking" or "not doing anything about RMT" when they constantly post updates of bans and suspensions put on accounts in a near weekly or bi-weekly basis.

Yes, and those updates just confirm that they're doing virtually nothing. The last one, for instance, indicated that they'd banned 1,235 accounts for RMT advertising over a week's time (and that seems to be fairly typical lately). That's a bit over 2 accounts per server per day. Two accounts a day is NOT dealing with the problem. It's nowhere near dealing with the problem. I'll often get spammed by more than that within a minute.

And that's not even counting the fact that, besides these occasional bans, they've done nothing else. They still haven't offered us a workable reporting feature. They don't screen even the most obvious gil-seller spam from chat messages. (Most of the gilsellers have quit even bothering to obfuscate their ads or even their web addresses.) They don't even allow us to refuse Friend requests.

[RyuRoots]

What really grinds MY gears about this is that it could be helped VERY easily. How about when we say no to a friend request...it, and stay with me here, ACTUALLY SAYS NO TO THE FRIEND REQUEST. Instead of just making the confirmation window disappear and forcing you to load your entire FL, manually go to it, right click on it, then click Decline. AFTER saying "no" to it. :/