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    Illya's Avatar
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    Illyasviel Einzbern
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wobi View Post
    The GC Restriction is one of my favorite parts, you keep worrying about teaming up with your friends as opposed to queueing up at the same time and hope you end up locked in battle with each other fighting for your respective GC. I'm a proud Immortal Flames and I have a blast trying to take out my friends in PvP, if you let just anyone in there then there is no teams also the amount of pre-mades rolling everyone would skyrocket and you'd quit after losing 50 in a row because you single queue.
    No MMO exists where solo queuing is better than rolling in a premade for PvP, nor should people always solo queue in an MMO which last I checked is the only game genre which explicitly insists players group for content.

    GC restriction is bad, the lore explanation is worse, and it should have been removed a long time ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wobi View Post
    if you let just anyone in there then there is no teams also the amount of pre-mades rolling everyone would skyrocket and you'd quit after losing 50 in a row because you single queue.

    Uhh. What? You do realize premades happen often even with the GC restriction, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaft View Post
    If they wanted to actually bother fixing it, it wouldn't take much. Remove the GC restrictions. Remove the node/tower NPC BS. Capture should play like Arathi Basin. Slaughter should play like TDM. Maybe add CTF.
    Are we supposed to know what Arathi Basin is? What is TDM? I'm assuming CTF is Capture the Flag?

    Other than that I agree that their system is inherently flawed as it is and with the DF, it's even worse. They seem to think that more maps = better experience. The problem is that with more maps, it dilutes the already few people even more and will most likely just increase the wait time in general causing more people to not want to play it causing even longer wait times.

    I personally agree that it should be redone to focus more on PvP and less on PvE and though I really don't mind some PvE interaction, I don't think PvE should affect the outcome of a PvP match. I pvp to fight people not see who can take PvE nodes/etc the fastest.
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    Aria Erabith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorielle View Post
    Uhh. What? You do realize premades happen often even with the GC restriction, right?
    Yes and it would become even worse if they remove GC restriction. I noticed quite a few people say they don't even PvP because of this, so perhaps you are unaware of how much premades suck to play against. Not many of my friends are into PvP so I solo queue often.
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    Last edited by Wobi; 04-19-2015 at 02:53 PM.
    Just your friendly neighborhood elezen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wobi View Post
    Yes and it would become even worse if they remove GC restriction. I noticed quite a few people say they don't even PvP because of this, so perhaps you are unaware of how much premades suck to play against. Not many of my friends are into PvP so I solo queue often.
    Except it would also cause many premades because people would be playing with their friends. Their experience would be more enjoyable regardless whether they win or lose.

    And it wouldn't get worse because there would be more and more premades on ALL of the teams. Not just one in particular. It's really a win win. Not sure why you'd be against getting rid of GC restriction. It was a horrible idea from the start
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhas View Post
    Are we supposed to know what Arathi Basin is? What is TDM? I'm assuming CTF is Capture the Flag?
    Did you know you can google things you are unfamiliar with? Anyway, snarkiness aside:

    Arathi Basin: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/pvp...s/arathi-basin

    TDM: Team Deathmatch

    You are correct that CTF is capture the flag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaft View Post
    Did you know you can google things you are unfamiliar with? Anyway, snarkiness aside:

    Arathi Basin: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/pvp...s/arathi-basin

    TDM: Team Deathmatch

    You are correct that CTF is capture the flag.
    Lol. I mean we took a lot of ideas from WoW. Why not take some PvP ideas? If anything Wed actually get to streaming for PvP which would help gather more fans. Personally I want more PvP but the way combat is I can't see it ever being really competitive. However getting rid of gc restrictions will almost instantly lower q times. Also reduction in zerg PvP plz. 10 v 10 mhmmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    The gc restriction should die in a fire. It's literally the reason I don't play pvp.
    B-but WoW had a faction-based PVP system. S-So that means every game must do this too even if it doesn't work for said particular game!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elusana_Celah View Post
    B-but WoW had a faction-based PVP system. S-So that means every game must do this too even if it doesn't work for said particular game!
    You make a valid point. Lets kill off one gc so we can have even based faction PvP. Yes!
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    N'rhuna Veraan
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    The GC limitation and insane queues have totally put me off of PVP entirely. I really want an ADS, but I want to play with my friends (and can't) and the two times I actually queued for it solo, I waited over an hour and never got in (and this was early afternoon).

    I'm not big on pvp in general but I'd give it a shot at least, if SE made it easy to do. They don't.
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